On Fri, Dec 13, 2002 at 06:42:36PM +0200, mohammad nabil wrote:
> 
> support Sun, Open Source, and all good manufacturar in our nice world :)
> 

Do you just not grasp that Sun's rigid control of Java is the
antithesis of Open Source, and _especially_ the Apache philosophy?

Try forking the Java codebase sometime.  See how fast it takes 
Sun's lawyers to find you.  Want to port Java to a new platform?
Get special permission from Sun, and don't plan on having public
CVS (see the FreeBSD experience).

There's nothing "open" about that.

Jeff

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