on 2002/12/19 10:25 AM, "Andrew C. Oliver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> The Andy theorem on general Apache Jakarta discussions continues to
> prove true (they all devolve into a rehash of the bad ol days of Tomcat
> 3.3/4)...  Please don't take the bait guys... Pretty please?
> 
> -Andy

Sorry, it is a very sore point. Many long hours went into banging my head
against The Wall (Costin) and even to this day, he and I can't agree on
anything. The irony of it all is that Costin ended up dropping T3 and is now
working on T4/T5. If only he had listened to us back then, I wouldn't have
wasted so much time.

The point being that we seem to continue to do the same circle. We get
people like Nicola who are similar to Costin in "The Wall" mindset and the
same exact discussions go round and round just on different topics (ie:
Maven vs. Centipede vs. Forrest vs. vs. vs. vs.).

Personal growth on my part would assume that I would find a way to arrange
things so that they see the light without making them feel stupid and giving
them a way to win. However, with people who have "The Wall" mentality, I
have not been able to figure out the right approach as of yet.

-jon

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