"Andrew C. Oliver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>>> Don't you think JBoss' huge success has something to do with Sun's
>>> animosity? Every developer I know who has a say on the platform uses
>>> JBoss: better product, better documentation, better support, lower
>>> price.
>> 
>> Don't read me wrong: I'm on the JBoss-side on this, in that *the
>> project* should be able to present itself on a JUG event. When comparing
>> *JBossGroup* with the ASF however (if that would be possible at all), I
>> partially understand Pier's reservations. This doesn't mean SunBE is
>> right on this, however. The fact a (pardon me) marketing lowlife
>> believes he can silently get away with that is once again a great
>> occasion to help such people see the cluetrain is arriving.
> 
> I *would* agree if the other vendors weren't being permitted.  I fail to see
> what compliance should have to do with it.  Its a Javapolis not a J2EEpolis.

All other vendors are permitted, and all other vendors had to pay for their
compliancy... Why is JBoss Group LLC different? Noone AFAIK ever told them
"no you can't", I believe they were just told "please pay the fee exactly
like every other vendor does".

    Pier


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