I agree to Henri JCS could need more publicity! I have implemented a transactional cache for the Jakarta Slide project as the only Apache caching thing I have found at that time was

http://db.apache.org/ojb/objectcache.html

which simply was not powerful enough.

Even tought ojb caching took some searching to actually find it as well, I did not find JCS as on the turbine page there is just the name "JCS". I did not imagine it was JCS caching in the first place.

Now information

http://jakarta.apache.org/turbine/jcs/index.html

tells me too little. Can someone explain: does it support any type of transactions or could it easily be augmented to?

Hope this is not too much OT and thanks in advance,

Oliver

Henri Yandell wrote:
Sounds like the basic problem is lack of community.

Getting community involves publicity and time. Publicity involves web
presence and a release.

Unless the rest of the turbine community are highly interested in JCS, I'd
suggest that joining Commons is the best way for you to gain community.
It's designed for things like JCS, but has no rules to stop JCS being
promoted out of Commons when the time comes.

Just by joining Commons you gain a pseudo-community for your project as
you'll be sharing a mailing list and others have commit access and can
jump in and help for a small task etc [like a release/website]. With an
active committer and publicity, contributors quite quickly turn up. Indeed
our problem is more one of having contributors to components but no active
committer.

Other alternatives would be to put JCS into incubation [which seems
heavy-handed], to talk with Turbineers about turning Turbine more into
a Commons-like environment, or to cast you out into Apache Commons. None
of these seem of benefit to JCS.

Hen

On Mon, 1 Dec 2003, Aaron Smuts wrote:


For the short term, I'm not sure what is best for JCS or Jakarta.
Stepping back and looking at JCS in relation to other Jakarta projects
might be helpful.

The commons is described as a "Repository for small scale, reusable,
code components that are useful in multiple Jakarta subprojects."
A small-scale component does not sound like a good description of JCS.
Instead, JCS looks more like a standalone tool such as Log4J, although
JCS is somewhat bigger.  I'm not sure this means it should be its own
project at this point or not.

JCS is being used on its own outside of Jakarta and within, making it
look more like a candidate for standalone status.  Also, there are
commercial standalone caching applications on the market.

I'm sure JCS would be much more widely used if we got out a release.
Right now, the major impediment is that users have to build it
themselves.  If we had a release, more sample applications and further
documentation, it would become more widely adopted.  It is somewhat
hidden right now: it's not listed on the main product page on the
Jakarta site.

One reason one might give for not making JCS a top level project is that
it is understaffed right now, though this may change if it was moved up.

Aaron Smuts





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