On Dec 15, 2003, at 4:23 PM, robert burrell donkin wrote:



On 13 Dec 2003, at 22:22, Martin Poeschl wrote:



what do you mean?
the code works. it is used by other projects .. and basically development slowed down as the developers are waiting for the jcache spec ... so i don't think there is any problem as long as there are developers maintaining the code

IMHO


1 the pmc is unable to demonstrate oversight.
2 there are a large number of pmc people who believe that umbrella sub-projects don't work.


as far as i was concerned the consensus was that whatever the JCS team wanted was cool provided that it addressed 1 + 2. promotion to sub-project status satisfies 2 and having henning and other turbineers volunteer to provide oversight satisfies 1.


If you solve 1, then 2 can be demonstrated. No need to do anything but ensure PMC oversight.


geir

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