In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, robert burr ell donkin writes: >that's why i would prefer something more positive. i'd prefer something >about mandating the pmc to take action to ensure appropriate >supervision when the number of active committers on the pmc falls below >three. this could mean something as simple as asking for volunteers >(from the pmc) to monitor the sub-project, restructuring the control >structure (keeping the code base and infrastructure but eliminating the >formal sub-project with all committers gaining karma on request and all >decisions passing directly to the pmc), hibernating the sub-project or >closing it completely.
Here's the way I see things, using ORO as the running example. There's no question ORO has a deficit of committers. Therefore, all release votes are now performed by the PMC. (Technically, the release votes for allsubprojects are performed by the PMC, but it just so happens that those PMC members voting are committers for the subproject and the votes happen on the subproject list.) I see that as the default stopgap measure to ensure users can get bug fix release while maintaining PMC oversight until further corrective measures are taken. However, as much as I and others have proposed various solutions to the ORO committer deficit, we haven't built up the motivation to act on them. That's where I think something explicit is needed in the bylaws to force this kind of issue to be resolved, instead of lingering on the way it has with ORO. Although I don't like the idea of closing down subprojects, the threat of it in the absence of some other resolution may provide the impetus required to avoid a perpetual status quo. That's all to say I +1 Robert's preference, but I don't have anything more specific to suggest than making explicit the requirement that the PMC takes over release votes for subprojects with active committer deficits. daniel --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
