Andrew C. Oliver wrote: > I think it is a bad idea. Either a project is alive or it is dead and > most of the dead are not coming back. The site, the project and > everything else should reflect this. > > I suggest that: > > 1. ECS > 2. ORO > 3. Regexp
> 4. Alexandria (already does basically) Was closed down about a year ago. > > all have a page that looks like this one: > http://avalon.apache.org/closed.html > > Stating that the projects are dead and state what things have taken > their place and provide links. There is > no need for an artificial "dev" list or "users" list. Just close the > lists. (If you disagree look at the list archive for > each over the last 6 months and see if you REALLY disagree in more than > THEORY). I know how the lists look like, I am subscribed to all Jakarta lists (bugzilla is the most active developer on these lists ;). These projects may be dead currently from a developer perspective (ignoring Daniels mail here for a moment), but hardly from a user perspective. And there is currently talk amongst users on eg ecs to potentially start activity. I like that to get more visibility and opportunity, which is now "hidden" in the ecs lists. Also I like the message on a website to contain something more than just the message "this project is dead" with some links. I rather state how people can get active on these projects again and I like to point them to a central dev list, instead a (potentially) forgotten dev list. When you want to close down the user list, should we point people to the general list for their support questions (which doesn't happen often, but it happens) ? Mvgr, Martin --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]