I accidentally divided by 5 instead of 6 but that does not change the
question



  a=.328 364;127 478;159 1;328 363;327 365;328 362
  6%~+/>a
266.167 322.167   NB. correct answer should be 328 363


  a=.247 235;0 0;244 433;129 304;246 236;291 48
  6%~+/>a
192.833 209.333     NB. correct answer should be 247 235


2007/3/15, Björn Helgason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

Lets say I use different methods to find the point and the correct answer
should be    328 363

Even if the majority are correct or close to it the mean may not be a good
answer


   a=.328 364;127 478;159 1;328 363;327 365;328 362
   5%~+/>a
319.4 386.6

Any suggestions to get a better approximation?

2007/3/15, Björn Helgason < [EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> I am trying different sizes of the kern and different filters.
>
> I created a form to show the images and different filtering and various
> results of finding the object.
> I try it out with finding patterns equal to different numbers and
> combinations of numbers as well as the actual kern without filter.
>
> It takes time to do the manual checking to see what settings give best
> results and are accurate.
>
>
> 2007/3/14, Oleg Kobchenko < [EMAIL PROTECTED] >:
> >
> > The listed image formats should not produce any
> > difference since they all are lossless compressions.
> > You can verify creating images in different formats,
> > loading in J and then subtracting the values.
> >
> > Regarding image recognition, although the simple difference minimum
> > method may work, it is not very stable and depends on
> > accuracy of defining the kernel and the chosen threshold,
> > which is different for every instance.
> >
> > It would be nice to see how other methods fair,
> > such as cross-correlation, as listed by Devon McCormick
> >
> > http://www.jsoftware.com/pipermail/general/2007-March/029123.html
> >
> > You can go iteratively, tweaking a working algorithm
> > with different ideas to see what's improving.
> > For example, I like the idea of normalization (first link)
> >   http://www.owlnet.rice.edu/~elec431/projects96/pictomaniacs/previous.html
> > 
<http://www.owlnet.rice.edu/%7Eelec431/projects96/pictomaniacs/previous.html>
> >
> > You can apply it to the method you use now to see if it will
> > eliminate the mismatch.
> >
> >
> > --- Bj�rn Helgason < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > When extracting an image to work with from a Dicom file I have three
> > options
> > >
> > > dcm2pnm  -  Convert  DICOM images to PPM/PGM, PNG, TIFF or BMP
> > >
> > >          +obt  --write-24-bit-bmp
> > >                  write 24-bit truecolor BMP
> > >
> > >          +ot   --write-tiff
> > >                  write 8-bit (monochrome) or 24-bit (color) TIFF
> > >
> > >          +on   --write-png
> > >                  write 8-bit (monochrome) or 24-bit (color) PNG
> > >
> > >
> > > I have up to now used bmp and am reasonably happy with the results.
> > >
> > > I am wondering if the other forms TIFF or PNG would give me better
> > results.
> > > Would I need different technique to find the object I am looking for
> > in the
> > > image?
> > >
> > > The method Oleg sent in earlier finds the object most of the time in
> > the BMP
> > > images.
> > > Actually only found one image so far where it missed the object and
> > gave
> > > another fairly similar looking location.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > 
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>           /|_      .-----------------------------------.
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>     /       /       | Enn betri en gærdagurinn  |
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góður kennari getur stigið á tær án þess að glansinn fari af skónum
          /|_      .-----------------------------------.
         ,'  .\  /  | Með léttri lund verður        |
     ,--'    _,'   | Dagurinn í dag                     |
    /       /       | Enn betri en gærdagurinn  |
   (   -.  |        `-----------------------------------'
   |     ) |        (\_ _/)
  (`-.  '--.)       (='.'=)
   `. )----'        (")_(")




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801 Grímsnes ,t-póst: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Tæknikunnátta höndlar hið flókna, sköpunargáfa er meistari einfaldleikans

góður kennari getur stigið á tær án þess að glansinn fari af skónum
         /|_      .-----------------------------------.
        ,'  .\  /  | Með léttri lund verður        |
    ,--'    _,'   | Dagurinn í dag                     |
   /       /       | Enn betri en gærdagurinn  |
  (   -.  |        `-----------------------------------'
  |     ) |        (\_ _/)
 (`-.  '--.)       (='.'=)
  `. )----'        (")_(")
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