A few notes about install location:
 - "structure" is a good thing, but putting all programs under same folder
is more like flat list than a strucuture.
So I prefer to organize things under top root folders: Math, Tools, etc.
In Program Files I put most ordinary things that I won't be browsing to.

- the security permissions issues seen in Program Files may not be tied to
this location: (1) any other folder can be given such restrictions;
(2) any subfolder of Program Files should be capable of relieving thereof.

Oleg


On Mar 12, 2008, at 17:53, "Eric Iverson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

To run pacman to update files in a protected folder such as Program Files you 
need to have permission. You may be able to right click the J icon and select 
'Run as Administrator'. Or you may have to actually log on as an admin account 
an run J there as admin to run pacman.

Running XP on a limited account is good practice. This is a little less 
necessary on Vista as accounts are by default limited, but can fairly easily 
and visibly boosted to admin when required.

Again, I wonder why people install J in "program files". How do the advantages 
weigh against the disadvantages?

----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Harris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "General forum" <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 4:32 PM
Subject: Re: [Jgeneral] J602 available


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"Eric Iverson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

J602 is available.

I just took a moment to install.  Since installing J601, I've followed
MS's recommendations and converted my account to a limited account
status, adding another account with admin privileges.  When I ran the J
installer, I ran it as that administrator, because I wanted to install
in c:Program Files/J602.  That seemed to work; I have a working J602.

What didn't work was Pacman.  While in J601 I could run Pacman out of my
current J session, J602 complains I need to become an admin.

I quit J602 and ran j.exe as admin.  That seems to work, but is that the
intended process?  I cant' find anything that indicates others have run
into this.

One disadvantage is that Pacman offers the Info button, which does make
it easy to find the JWiki page corresponding to a particular package
quickly.  While I can perhaps understand not wanting to run Pacman as a
limited user, it would be nice to be able to open Pacman, see what's
installed, and read the Info pages and have Pacman only refuse when you
try to update or install something.

One other small installation suggestion: some installers ask in which
group one wants to place the start shortcut.  J602 didn't, and so I'll
go back and move it to my Programming group the next time I am logged in
as an admin /and/ I happen to think of it (shutting down 14 windows,
when one of those is Emacs with umpteen windows, isn't a
spur-of-the-moment thing, and I obviously can't make such a change as a
limited user).

Other than that, it was a simple process.

Thanks,

Bill
- -- Bill Harris                      http://facilitatedsystems.com/weblog/
Facilitated Systems                              Everett, WA 98208 USA
http://facilitatedsystems.com/                  phone: +1 425 337-5541
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