Sadly the whole keyboard popup that appears when you enter a editable  
area, is a standard central keyboard "widget"

The sdk offers some simple variants (like numbers only etc) but  
nothing that could be used efficiently for j.

I actually lost interest in using j on the iPhone/touch because of  
this reason.

By the time I was switching back and forth between the 3 modes I lost  
track in what I was trying to achieve!

I guess the power users would soon get used to it, but I just don't  
have the time and space to work with it.

Sent from my iPhone

On 1 Jul 2009, at 07:40, [email protected] wrote:

> jkt> Following this with interest - even though I use iPod Touch  
> instead
> jkt> of iPhone, I find lots of good/available WiFi access. I bought  
> iSSH
> jkt> when it first came out - one reason was to access j, and general
> jkt> admin activities on my Linux servers.
>
> I was curious how the iTouch's display-mapped keyboard works out
> with J which is so heavy on punctuation.  I don't own an Apple Touch
> myself but a colleague does, so I could give it a quick try and
> ssh'ed into one of our J servers.  What a funnny experience.
>
> For those who have never seen the device:
>
>    Since screen real-estate is so scarce, all you'll you get
>    displayed for tapping are some thirty "keys"; just enough
>    for "a"-"z" plus a bit for Backspace, Return, Space.
>
>    For digits, you have to "mode-switch" into another map.
>    For some punctuation characters, you have to switch into another
>    map;  for other punctuation characters, into yet another.
>
>    (Think of SMS text entry or small electronic label printers with
>    a limited keyboard but rich symbol set.)
>
> When entering something like "/usr/local/src/j/engine", you have
> to switch kbd maps to and fro for every single "/".
>
> For entering
>
>        (+/ % #) ? 10 # 100
>
> I ended up feeling I had to tap more keys to switch maps than for  
> actual
> characters.
>
> Sorry, I don't have the details which ssh program I was using.  Are  
> there
> ssh/telnet programs which offer a more suitable keyboard, or is this
> a central system facility they all are using?  What works for you,  
> Joey?
>
>                            Martin
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