Joey - according to Wikipedia, Sharp APL was available as an "in-house"
product in 1980.  This raises the question of what date to use - that of the
internal system or one publicly available.  I've been tending to the earlier
date.

On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 1:22 AM, Joey K Tuttle <[email protected]> wrote:

> Devon,
>
> Nice that you're doing this.
>
> The IBM 5100 was APL.SV rather than APL\360 - it was indeed in 1975.
> I think one of the astonishing things about the 5100 is that the IBM
> Rochester department that developed it had only 8 regular employees.
> Another interesting fact is that when the 5110 came out with disk
> storage, a 3.5 inch technology from Sony (that showed up 10 years
> later in PCs) was rejected because it was "too far out" - instead the
> already in use IBM 8 inch floppy was used...
>
> Sharp APL came considerably earlier than 1979. Actually in 1978 or 79
> Sharp APL had dial up access in Moscow - as well as many other places
> around the world. STSC's first time sharing service was run on a
> machine at I.P. Sharp Associates, the development of the APL file
> system was a shared project. Considerable history of the Sharp
> network (along with contemporary other networks) can be found at
> http://www.rogerdmoore.ca/ the wikipedia page
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I._P._Sharp_Associates is interesting
> and partly accurate ...
>
> There is active interest in APL and time lines like this at
> http://www.computerhistory.org/ (whose server has been down today...)
>
> - joey
>
>
> At 00:03  -0400 2009/08/31, Devon McCormick wrote:
> >Thanks for the reminder - and a belated happy birthday to J!
> >
> >This is a good intro for something I'm working on for the Ken Iverson page
> >for the ACM's Turing Award winners web pages.  There's a section I'm on
> now
> >for APL systems in chronological order.  I've asked APL vendors to
> >contribute a few lines about their respective systems but it's mostly
> meant
> >as an historical perspective.
> >
> >I'd like some help with dates and any systems I've missed.  For instance,
> >Wikipedia mentions systems by Burroughs, CDC, and other mainframe
> companies
> >with whose APLs I am unfamiliar.
> >
> >Here's what I have so far:
> >
> >[1964] I.P. Sharp Associates: developed early packet switching computer
> >networking system known as IPSANET, and a global e-mail system.  Purchased
> >in 1987[?] by Reuters.
> >[1966] APL\360
> >[1967] APL\1130
> >[1969] Scientific Time-Sharing Corporation
> >[1973] APL.SV: introduces shared variables.
> >[1973] 8008-based MCM/70
> >[1975?] APL\360 on the 5100
> >[?] Burroughs APL\700
> >[1977] 8080-based "small APL" called EMPL
> >[1977] Z-80-based TIS APL
> >[1978] PDP / LSI-11 implementmentation of APL
> >[1979] Sharp APL
> >[1981?] IBM VSAPL
> >[1982?] APL.68000 for Motorola 68000
> >[1983?] Analogic's APL machine
> >[1982] APL*PLUS PC
> >[1983?] NARS2000:  open source APL interpreter written by Bob Smith.
> >[1983?] MicroAPL's APLX
> >[1984] IBM APL2
> >[1985] Dyalog
> >[1988] Timothy A. Budd's "An APL compiler"
> >[1987] Rationalized APL
> >[1988] A+
> >[1989] J Software
> >[1990] ACORN: APL to C On Real Numbers - a prototype APL to C compiler.
> >[1993] K
> >[1995] APL2000
> >[?] APL to C# translator from Causeway Graphical Systems
> >[?] Bob Bernecky's APEX compiler
> >
> >Any help, especially with references, would be appreciated.  As you can
> see,
> >some of them - I'm looking at you "Sharp" - are particularly difficult to
> >pin down.
> >
> >Thanks,
> >
> >Devon
> >
> >On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 8:07 PM, PackRat <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >>  Three days ago, August 27 (about 4pm), was the 20th anniversary of the
> >>  "birth" of J <http://www.jsoftware.com/jwiki/Essays/Incunabulum>, and
> >>  it has grown and developed ever since.  I don't know if the developers
> >>  of J consider that the "birthdate", but it makes a lot of sense to me.
> >>  Happy birthday, J!
> >>
> >>  Harvey
> >>
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> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >--
> >Devon McCormick, CFA
> >^me^ at acm.
> >org is my
> >preferred e-mail
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