To provide more compatibility between the two environments, JGTK should not exit on pressing ESC. In JGTK CTRL+a selects all the text. Why not have it be lab advance? More like in JHS which uses ESC-a for lab advance. In addition CTRL+a could be lab advance in JGTK instead of selecting all.
It seems to me that it is more important that JGTK and JHS conform closer to each other than to the conventions of GTK and browsers. If I use JHS and get used to pressing ESC to do functions I could get in real trouble trying to use JGTK. On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 9:40 PM, Tikkanz <[email protected]> wrote: > I agree managing keybindings across browsers and across OS's is hard - > however my main suggestions below just involve altering the letters > used in combination with Esc, not changing the basic key combinations. > > My mentioning Ctrl+ use in Gmail was intended just as a heads up that > this might be worth investigating sometime in the future ... J702? > ;-). > > On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 4:34 PM, bill lam <[email protected]> wrote: > > My knowledge with jhs is almost empty, but I imagine jhs has already > gotten > > a hard time to keep keybindings work across different browsers. JGTK is > > fortunate here. > > > > Пнд, 07 Фев 2011, Ric Tikkanz писал(а): > >> I agree that making keyboard mappings user-configurable is sensible. > >> However IMO, the default (Out-of-the-Box) configuration should as > >> similar as possible between the various IDEs. > >> > >> On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 4:15 PM, bill lam <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > Ideally keybinding should be user configurable because it is a matter > of > >> > personal preference, eg. a certain key chord can be awkward to reach > in > >> > some keyboard mappings. > >> > > >> > J701 is now a stable release albeit being crude, so that Jbeta forum > can > >> > now take a break. > >> > > >> > Пнд, 07 Фев 2011, Ric Tikkanz писал(а): > >> >> I discovered that the Ctrl+j shortcut (same as J602) works to advance > >> >> from topic to topic but this probably needs to be made more > >> >> discoverable (Help|Studio|Advance ?). > >> >> > >> >> Ideally the default JHS and Gtk IDE shortcuts for advancing in a lab > >> >> (and other common things) should use the same letter - currently JHS > >> >> is (Esc,a) while Gtk IDE is (Ctrl+j). > >> >> JHS already uses (Esc,j) to switch to the jijx window, and Gtk IDE > >> >> already uses (Ctrl+a) as "select all" - a fairly widely-used standard > >> >> (browsers, editors). > >> >> > >> >> Currently: > >> >> JHS Gtk > >> >> Switch to jijx/Term j T > >> >> Switch to jijs/Edit J M > >> >> Advance lab topic a j > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> Proposed: > >> >> JHS Gtk > >> >> Switch to jijx/Term j j > >> >> Switch to jijs/Edit J J > >> >> Advance lab topic t t > >> >> > >> >> BTW, as I write this in my browser using Google mail, I notice that > >> >> they have successfully managed to use the standard Ctrl+ shortcuts > >> >> that we are used to in desktop apps (i.e. Ctrl+s saves my draft, > >> >> Ctrl+B for bold etc.). It may therefore be possible to emulate what > >> >> they've done in JHS at some stage? > >> >> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> >> For information about J forums see > http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > >> > > >> > -- > >> > regards, > >> > ==================================================== > >> > GPG key 1024D/4434BAB3 2008-08-24 > >> > gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys 4434BAB3 > >> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> > For information about J forums see > http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > > > > -- > > regards, > > ==================================================== > > GPG key 1024D/4434BAB3 2008-08-24 > > gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys 4434BAB3 > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm
