The "x" in the Windows environment is a quick way out, going to the option of whether or not to prompt on exiting. If a person wants to exit J, why go to another prompt to make "are you sure?". The point I was trying to make is that the JHS and JGTK versions should be somewhat consistent.
I choose not to be prompted with the "are you sure?" but I don't think pressing "esc" should kick in the terminate J sequence. It doesn't is in browsers. Why should it in JTGK? On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 4:04 PM, chris burke <[email protected]> wrote: > There is a ConfirmClose config for this in gtkide config. Default is > off. Should it be on, or is the default not important? > > On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 11:43 PM, Don Guinn <[email protected]> wrote: > > To provide more compatibility between the two environments, JGTK should > not > > exit on pressing ESC. In JGTK CTRL+a selects all the text. Why not have > it > > be lab advance? More like in JHS which uses ESC-a for lab advance. In > > addition CTRL+a could be lab advance in JGTK instead of selecting all. > > > > It seems to me that it is more important that JGTK and JHS conform closer > to > > each other than to the conventions of GTK and browsers. If I use JHS and > get > > used to pressing ESC to do functions I could get in real trouble trying > to > > use JGTK. > > > > On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 9:40 PM, Tikkanz <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> I agree managing keybindings across browsers and across OS's is hard - > >> however my main suggestions below just involve altering the letters > >> used in combination with Esc, not changing the basic key combinations. > >> > >> My mentioning Ctrl+ use in Gmail was intended just as a heads up that > >> this might be worth investigating sometime in the future ... J702? > >> ;-). > >> > >> On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 4:34 PM, bill lam <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > My knowledge with jhs is almost empty, but I imagine jhs has already > >> gotten > >> > a hard time to keep keybindings work across different browsers. JGTK > is > >> > fortunate here. > >> > > >> > Пнд, 07 Фев 2011, Ric Tikkanz писал(а): > >> >> I agree that making keyboard mappings user-configurable is sensible. > >> >> However IMO, the default (Out-of-the-Box) configuration should as > >> >> similar as possible between the various IDEs. > >> >> > >> >> On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 4:15 PM, bill lam <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> >> > Ideally keybinding should be user configurable because it is a > matter > >> of > >> >> > personal preference, eg. a certain key chord can be awkward to > reach > >> in > >> >> > some keyboard mappings. > >> >> > > >> >> > J701 is now a stable release albeit being crude, so that Jbeta > forum > >> can > >> >> > now take a break. > >> >> > > >> >> > Пнд, 07 Фев 2011, Ric Tikkanz писал(а): > >> >> >> I discovered that the Ctrl+j shortcut (same as J602) works to > advance > >> >> >> from topic to topic but this probably needs to be made more > >> >> >> discoverable (Help|Studio|Advance ?). > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Ideally the default JHS and Gtk IDE shortcuts for advancing in a > lab > >> >> >> (and other common things) should use the same letter - currently > JHS > >> >> >> is (Esc,a) while Gtk IDE is (Ctrl+j). > >> >> >> JHS already uses (Esc,j) to switch to the jijx window, and Gtk IDE > >> >> >> already uses (Ctrl+a) as "select all" - a fairly widely-used > standard > >> >> >> (browsers, editors). > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Currently: > >> >> >> JHS Gtk > >> >> >> Switch to jijx/Term j T > >> >> >> Switch to jijs/Edit J M > >> >> >> Advance lab topic a j > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Proposed: > >> >> >> JHS Gtk > >> >> >> Switch to jijx/Term j j > >> >> >> Switch to jijs/Edit J J > >> >> >> Advance lab topic t t > >> >> >> > >> >> >> BTW, as I write this in my browser using Google mail, I notice > that > >> >> >> they have successfully managed to use the standard Ctrl+ shortcuts > >> >> >> that we are used to in desktop apps (i.e. Ctrl+s saves my draft, > >> >> >> Ctrl+B for bold etc.). 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