> I cannot help but compare how difficult it is to get ready to use such a > "small" system as J is, on the one hand, with doing the same for > Mathematica, on the other hand. The latter is a far, far larger program > (installer now around 1GB!) and a software system of far, far greater > complexity. Yet installing it, ready to go, is essentially trivial.
For any product, easing the path for new users takes a lot of expensive grease... Observation: +---------+-----------+-+ | |Mathematica|J| +---------+-----------+-+ |Cost ($) |2495 |0| +---------+-----------+-+ |Employees|300 |5| +---------+-----------+-+ Figures for Mathematica/Wolfram Research are from Wikipedia. Figures for J/Jsoftware I'm just guessing. > I do not think J7 is ready for "newbies" yet. What it still needs may be very simple. But actual new user experience with J7 could be an essential ingredient. Some vendors have been known to ship an entire release (or two) to gather such data. IMO this is not necessary, and is due to ignorance. On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 1:22 PM, Raul Miller <[email protected]> wrote: > 2011/3/1 Björn Helgason <[email protected]>: >> 2011/2/28 Raul Miller <[email protected]> >>> I do not think J7 is ready for "newbies" yet. >> >> There are others who do not agree with that statement > > I see work here, making J7 ready for beginners. > > But I do not see anything which conflicts with the cautionary > statement on the download page. > > -- > Raul > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm
