Once again it is not the size but the speed that counts. Very often when you have a lot of people working on a project you get duplicates of utilities and tools doing basically the same thing.
I worked on a project combining a lot of Dos programs into one Windows program. One thing I learned was that there were not much problems with a Dos program that was opened and shutdown after use even if it did not release memory but a lot of them open all the time caused a lot of problem. The Dos programs had been created by several people and the names of modules were often same for different purposes. So mixing together a lot of people and gather up a lot of code is not always such a good idea. What is interesting now with J getting smaller is that the surrounding and all the helps/labs/demos/addons are getting bigger if you download them all and compare with a former version of J and not the least all the stuff that comes with GTK. 2011/$3/3 Ian Clark <[email protected]> > > I cannot help but compare how difficult it is to get ready to use such a > > "small" system as J is, on the one hand, with doing the same for > > Mathematica, on the other hand. The latter is a far, far larger program > > (installer now around 1GB!) and a software system of far, far greater > > complexity. Yet installing it, ready to go, is essentially trivial. > > For any product, easing the path for new users takes a lot of > expensive grease... > > Observation: > > +---------+-----------+-+ > | |Mathematica|J| > +---------+-----------+-+ > |Cost ($) |2495 |0| > +---------+-----------+-+ > |Employees|300 |5| > +---------+-----------+-+ > > Figures for Mathematica/Wolfram Research are from Wikipedia. > Figures for J/Jsoftware I'm just guessing. > > > I do not think J7 is ready for "newbies" yet. > > What it still needs may be very simple. But actual new user experience > with J7 could be an essential ingredient. > > Some vendors have been known to ship an entire release (or two) to > gather such data. IMO this is not necessary, and is due to ignorance. > > > > On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 1:22 PM, Raul Miller <[email protected]> wrote: > > 2011/3/1 Björn Helgason <[email protected]>: > >> 2011/2/28 Raul Miller <[email protected]> > >>> I do not think J7 is ready for "newbies" yet. > >> > >> There are others who do not agree with that statement > > > > I see work here, making J7 ready for beginners. > > > > But I do not see anything which conflicts with the cautionary > > statement on the download page. > > > > -- > > Raul > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > -- Björn Helgason, Verkfræðingur Fornustekkum II 781 Hornafirði, t-póst: [email protected] gsm: +3546985532 sími: +3544781286 http://groups.google.com/group/J-Programming Tæknikunnátta höndlar hið flókna, sköpunargáfa er meistari einfaldleikans góður kennari getur stigið á tær án þess að glansinn fari af skónum /|_ .-----------------------------------. ,' .\ / | Með léttri lund verður | ,--' _,' | Dagurinn í dag | / / | Enn betri en gærdagurinn | ( -. | `-----------------------------------' | ) | (\_ _/) (`-. '--.) (='.'=) ♖♘♗♕♔♙ `. )----' (")_(") ☃☠ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm
