On Friday 19 September 2003 8:11 am, someone claiming to be Net Llama! wrote: > Moving to the general list, where this belonged in the first place... > > On Thu, 18 Sep 2003, Collins Richey wrote: <snip> > > > I agree with Franklin et al. that freedom is important, but which is > > better - half a loaf or no loaf at all? Unless the Homeland Security > > agents do their work well, the Mullahs would be all too happy to see that > > we get no loaf at all. > > Freedom is not percentage game. Either you have it or you don't, there is > no half. You apparently don't even understand Franklin's remark if you > can misinterpret it so badly. And you sir, are a bigot. How would you > feel if someone else on this list started branding your religious leader > in negative & derogatory ways? You owe everyone on this list an apology > for spouting such wanton hatred & ignorance.
Well... There's a thin line here between maintaining the freedoms we alegedly base our country on, and maintaining peace. A line that was blurred when someone decided that it was a good idea to fly planeloads of innocents into buildings full of innocents. But I don't believe that the FBI, CIA, HS, or whatever have suddenly developed the ability to protect us today from that which they couldn't protect us in September of 2001. And I don't believe any "Patriot Act" or any act du jour is really gonna have any affect on addressing the real problems of the world. (There are just too many, and there is no way for the divergant cultures of this world to agree on what the problems *are*, much less to agree on ways to solve them). These acts are designed to foster re-election, not to *do* anything. Unquestionably, Americans have lost freedoms, but we haven't lost any more freedoms in the past 2 years, really, than we've lost since big government came into play in the 40's. Our freedons have been eroding for a long time, now. And I don't believe Collins is "spouting ... wanton hatred & ignorance" any more than you are, Lonnie. Ignorance is a clever beast, those who possess it are usually ignorant of their possession of it. Just my $0.02 US...I'll go back to ignoring political discusions now... BTW, wasn't this thread supposed to have ended when someone brought up Hitler? Regards, Tim -- RedHat 8.0 Kernel 2.4.20-20.8, KDE 3.1.3, Xfree86 4.2.1 9:30pm up 1 day, 1:27, 1 user, load average: 0.07, 0.12, 0.08 It's what you learn after you know it all that counts _______________________________________________ General mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/general
