Thanks, Llama, It's 2.6.3 at the moment, but will be >= 2.6.5 before the day is out. Good heads-up.
BTW: I remember a little ditty: A one-L Lama is a priest A two-L Llama is a beast I will bet a silk pajama That there ain't no three-L Lllama <pun>of course ignoring serious fire alarms</pun> How did you come by that moniker, anyway? ++ kevin --- Net Llama! <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Which 2.6 kernel are you using? Unless its 2.6.5 or > newer i think you're > playing with fire. > > On Thu, 15 Jul 2004, Kevin OGorman wrote: > > > This all fills me with fear and trepidation. > > > > I have a dual-xeon box that was running an older 2.4 > > kernel, trying to use ext3, but got tired of kernel > > panics. With all the good vibes around ext3 in > general, > > I assumed that the presence of 4 hyperthreads was > > a problem that most people didn't face. Soo.... > > > > I'm bringing this machine up with gentoo and the big > > data partition is xfs. No problems so far, but I'm > > worried. I'm using a 2.6 kernel, perhaps close to the > > bleeding edge (I don't remember exactly how it > > was described, but most were 2.4 when I started this). > > > > Wish me luck... > > > > ++ kevin > > > > --- Collins Richey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Net Llama! <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > >>>>Just to stire the pot, and play devil's > advocate, > > > i will say > > > > > >that>>>it hasn't achiveved respectability in > alot of > > > groups. There > > > > > >are>>>some heated attacks on gentoo on the XFS > > > mailign list, and > > > > > >i've>>>seen some snide remarks on LKML as well. > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > >>The majority of the snide remarks come from > people > > > who have looked > > > > > >at>Gentoo's special kernel patches and been > > > revulsed. There's a > > > > > >>disturbing corellation between people reporting > > > unreproducable XFS > > > > > >>filesystem corruption and using Gentoo's > kernels. > > > > > >> > > > > > > I did a little research on both the XFS comments > about > > > gentoo and on the > > > gentoo-user list. Here's my take on the situation: > > > > > > 1. Gentoo offers all sorts of kernels, from plain > vanilla > > > to every sort > > > of experimental kernel imaginable. There aren't any > > > current statistics, > > > but, if last year was any indication, a lot of people > go > > > for the > > > experimental kernels. For me, the vanilla kernels are > > > good enough. > > > > > > 2. The most recent XFS complaints I could find about > > > gentoo were a > > > mixture of 2.6 32-bit and 64-bit users, and yes most > of > > > these were > > > experimental kernels. There are only a handful of > reports > > > from gentoo > > > users. > > > > > > 3. The XFS developers choose to ignore any reports > using > > > an experimental > > > kernel. I'm of two minds about that approach. 1) > Sounds > > > fine. It's more > > > difficult to analyze with extra patches. 2) The > reports > > > aren't "my > > > kernel broke" but "my file system crapped out." If > the > > > XFS code is > > > really fragile enough that the presence of some extra > > > patches is a > > > problem, then maybe some extra work needs to be done > by > > > the developers. > > > I suspect that some of the reported problems are > indeed > > > XFS bugs that > > > will go unsolved because the developers don't like to > > > deal with extra > > > patches. I haven't seen a lot of reports from ext3 > users > > > on experimental > > > kernels saying "my file system crapped out.:- > reiserfs > > > yes, even on > > > vanilla kernels. > > > > > > 4. The comments in the XFS postings complaining about > > > gentoo are about > > > as non-specific as you can get. "They include patches > > > they shouldn't and > > > they omit patches they should have." "Get an RH > asap." It > > > would be nice > > > to have some real examples and some analysis of what > the > > > presence / > > > absence of patches has to do with the filesystem > layer. > > > Where's the > > > beef, i.e. the proof that the problem has anything to > do > > > with extra > > > patches? Not all kernel patches affect the filesystem > > > layer. There's a > > > similar situation with "I don't like the version of > > > glibc/gcc your're > > > running." As above, no real information, no taking > the > > > opportunity to > > > do advance work to deal with the glibc/gcc changes > which > > > will just come > > > back to bite later with even more users, just > griping. > > > > > > 5. I've ignored the comments about 2.4 kernels. In > those > > > days XFS was > > > patch city. It should be a little easier for everyone > now > > > that > > > XFS is in the kernel source tree. > > > > > > 6. The hard feelings go both ways. The gentoo > developers > > > were burned > > > badly by an XFS server they were running a while ago, > and > > > the XFS > > > developers hate to see problem reports from gentoo > > > because of the > > > experimental kernels. In an ideal world, there would > be > > > more cooperation > > > and less animosity, but unfortunately the trend is > toward > > > animosity. > > > Neither attitude is to be commended. > > > > > > In summary, gentoo is respected by a growing number > of > > > users, but > > > only tolerated by a large number of others. End of > story > > > for my part. > > > > > > Enjoy, > > > > > > -- > > > /\/\ > > > ( CR ) Collins Richey > > > \/\/ fly Independence Air - they run Linux > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Unsub/Pause/Etc -> > > > > > > http://mail.linux-sxs.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/general > > > > > > > > > ===== > > Dr. Kevin O'Gorman (805) 756-2986 > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Home Page: http://www.csc.calpoly.edu/~kogorman > > _______________________________________________ > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Unsub/Pause/Etc -> > http://mail.linux-sxs.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/general > > > > -- > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Lonni J Friedman > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > === message truncated === ===== Dr. Kevin O'Gorman (805) 756-2986 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Home Page: http://www.csc.calpoly.edu/~kogorman _______________________________________________ [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsub/Pause/Etc -> http://mail.linux-sxs.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/general
