On Thu, 11 Nov 2004 09:01:42 -0500, Tim Wunder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 11/11/2004 8:54 AM, I believe that Net Llama! wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Thu, 11 Nov 2004, Collins Richey wrote:
> >
> >>On Thu, 11 Nov 2004 12:29:50 +0100, Roger Oberholtzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>wrote:
> >>
> >>>On Thu, 2004-11-11 at 10:41, James McDonald wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>What does it mean to be "left wing" or "right wing" has anyone got a non
> >>>>satirical explanation.
> >>>
> >>>Sort of (*):
> >>>
> >>>left-wing = liberal = Democrat/Labour = progressive = 'for the worker'
> >>>
> >>>right-ring = conservative = Republican/Tory = reactionary = 'for the
> >>>rich guy'
> >>>
> >>>(*) As you can see, this is a very sloppy way to describe things. But I
> >>>think this is a 'classical' grouping of these terms. Life is not so
> >>>neat.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>I keep hearing these terms and because I am non-political have no idea
> >>>>what they mean?
> >>>
> >>>I suspect many non non-political folk are in the same situation.
> >>>
> >>
> >>It's a little deeper than that. The terms "for the worker" and "for
> >>the rich guy" are purely stereotypes. The essential difference is
> >>this.
> >>
> >>The leftist believes that government should play a big role in our
> >>lives - providing benefits and controlling many aspects of our life
> >>using any funds that can be ripped off from the rest of us (high
> >>taxes). There is a strong preponderence of leftist thinking in large
> >>metropolitan areas and in the universities where the proponents
> >>believe that they know better than the rest of us by virtue of their
> >>great intellect. Many of these same leftists believe in the communist
> >>dictum that religion is the opiate of the people and that it should be
> >>suppressed wherever you find it. Many of these same leftists believe
> >>that patriotism is a relic of the past and that government should be
> >>controled by international consortiums (e.g. the UN).
> >>
> >>The conservative believes that government should be restricted to the
> >>roles designed in the constitution (small government), that the
> >>individual is responsible for his own life, and that we know better
> >>how to spend our money than the government does (low taxes). There is
> >>a strong preponderence of conservative thinking in rural and suburban
> >>areas. Many of the most religious people are conservatives, and some
> >>of these also have the belief that they know better than the rest of
> >>us. Most conservatives are patriots for there country and have no
> >>desire to see their country under the control of international
> >>consortiums.
> >>
> >>Needless to say, there are many gradations of thought in between these
> >>two poles. In the US, at least, there has been a gradual shift over
> >>the past decades toward conservative thinking and, at the same time, a
> >>growth in the more radical fringes of the left and the right.
> >
> >
> > Collins forget the footnote where he should have stated that he, himself,
> > is a conservative, and hence his few of anyone who is not a conservative
> > is heavily biased, and not quite accurate.
> >
>
> Yet your view of conservatives is not biased? Why didn't you chastize Roger
> for his biased explanation of left wing and right wing? His was equally, if
> not more, biased than Collins'.
>
> Cripes, we can't even agree on what left wing and right wing mean...
>
I'll be happy to add the footnote that I am conservative.
Nevertheless, I believe that I provided a fair approximation of what
leftist and rightist mean. The one detail I missed for the leftists is
that fact that many are pacifists and generally opposed to any form of
war. I also believe that I made it perfectly clear that there are
radicals on both sides of the aisle.
What part of the description did you have a problem with, Lonni?
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(CR) Collins Richey
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Spouse 1.0, but the maintenance ... was too much for my OS."
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