R. Quenett wrote:
mutilated misquotes
from Alma J Wetzker's 15 Jun 2005 classic prose
may follow:
" As for the WTC, I find the explanation of the high temp fire caused by
" burning jet fuel weakening steel beams so that a few floors collapsed at
" once and just overwhelming the lower floors on the way down, very
" credible.
It makes sense to me too. Plus, I'd expect an explosive demolition
(what other kind could there have been?) to have a unique, different
and probably obvious signature. And it's not as though people
weren't watching the collapse. But as I remarked, the guy who made
the allegation appeared to have claimed to have made a case - which
he was not questioned about nor asked to support. Why?
" When the politics become entangled in science, I have a hard time fully
" crediting the science.
Me, too. But I can't recall there ever having been such a situation
where the necessary remedies did not require expanding the powers of
the state. Certainly, I have no memory of there having been one ever
(with the possible exception of the 1776 events) whose remedy
required those powers be diminished.
" (For example: global warming and carbon dioxide
" reduction. Probably true, but still some troubling issues that make me
" think we are barking up the wrong tree.)
Bad science (politics involved:). Have you seen these?
http://www.climatechangeissues.com/files/PDF/conf05mckitrick.pdf
http://www.uoguelph.ca/~rmckitri/research/MM-W05-background.pdf
I found using google to search for "McIntyre McKitrick global
warming" and variants with and without 'hockey stick' interesting.
But at least here, there is honest intellectual debate around the
science and the facts.
The debate is important. I also question going after only carbon
dioxide when particulate pollution from coal, dung, wood and peat cause
far worse effects. Those forms of heating and cooking are widely used
in Asia, primarily India and China and have huge global implications,
yet they are ignored in favor of CO2.
I hadn't seen those two. but there are many people questioning. That is
good. What isn't good is the way the climate control is the academic
party line, any deviance will result in entire careers being discredited
and cut short. With the penalties for disagreement so high, can there
be high level disagreement?
" I am studying to be an engineer.
Then you might also be sympathetic to the idea that measuring the
temperature of the earth proves nothing in regard to global warming.
What would be required in the first place to show the trend would be
a heat balance. Shouldn't be that hard to do with today's satellite
technology, should it? Especially when only one heat transfer
mechanism is applicable.
Last I heard was that we were taking in 1 Watt / meter squared in heat
more than we were giving off. Not sure if that is good or bad. The
Earth is not a closed system. We depend on abundant energy from the Sun
to keep life going. Are we using the heat, or is it going straight to
global warming?
" I care about things like Apple
" switching to make an i-Ntel box. I care about linux. I care about
" getting my homework done for Monday. This stuff is entertainment until
" I can see evidence beyond someone's pet theory.
Yes, I agree but however :) the political crap will affect all of
this as well as whether and how you will be allowed to practice
Engineering - when the only ones who should have any say are you and
your customer(s). The very best of luck, btw, it can be a tough
profession - any particular discipline?
I am focusing on signal processing/communications and biomedical. I can
do most of the digital stuff, but I learned that before I started
college. I also focus on applied math. This is all part of Electrical
Engineering.
" I hope I have an open
" mind. The most distinguishing thing about science is the rapidity of
" induced humility. If you can't change your mind, your shelf life is
" measured in weeks.
I love it. There is at least one tag line there. Thanks.
R
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