-1 Unless someone can explain WHY tables are a bad way to lay out HTML. 'They weren't intended for it' isn't really good enough! If they provide a richer functionality without nasty side effects why not? How are they so bad for text browsers? Now, the argument behind FORMATTING using css is rock solid, but I always thought that HTML was about LAYOUT and CSS was about FORMATTING. Looking at w3c, they go on about 'adding style': I always read that as 'formatting'. In my work, I'm clear:
XML [data] -xsl-> HTML [data+layout] -css-> Screen [data+layout+formatting] To change the layout, I change the xsl. I design the xsl so that site-global layout is managed from a single point. If I want HTML without any HTML markup for non-browser-usage, I use - well, XML! If I want 'HTML' to print nicely, I use FO and FOP. Pragmatism over purism, I say. Alistair -----Original Message----- From: Gerhard Froehlich [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 6:13 PM To: Apache XML General List Subject: RE: [OT] Design Rant >-----Original Message----- >From: Berin Loritsch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 7:01 PM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: [OT] Design Rant > > >Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: > >> Copied to general@ since this is a general discussion. >> >> It's a strong position but, hey, I find resonating with what you're >> saying :) >> >> We have the *luxury* to know what our user base is and estimate their >> needs very precisely. >> >> Moreover, this is a site dedicated to new technologies for the web and a >> site dedicated to evangelize open standard compliance thru reference >> implementations and cooperation. >> >> If we page a page on the 'about' section that talks about our reasons, I >> think people might even appreciate our effort to both evangelize the >> technology and 'put in practice' what we say. >> >> What do others think? (we must have a wide agreement to go forward on >> this) > > >+1 +1, of course Gerhard "Sorry, but my karma just ran over your dogma." --------------------------------------------------------------------- In case of troubles, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --------------------------------------------------------------------- In case of troubles, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]