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A few comments/opinions from my perspective and comments 
on xalan-related items. -sc

---- you Dirk-Willem van Gulik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote ----
> ...
> So no matter what - we need to have the jar's with licenses which
> prohibits the ASF of having them there in CVS zapped ASAP - i.e.
within
> days - even if this is at the expense of zapping a bit too much.
> ...
>Could you folks get me an opinion ?
>
>1.     Fixing the problem
>       Option 1.2
>               Within the next 72 hours - each projects
>               makes sure it's jar's adhere to the guidelines
>               below. All others are zapped.

+1 to 1.2; let each subproject try to resolve this themselves 
to start with.  If anyone lags behind, then the PMC or whoever 
feels the need can come around later and delete any 
un-officially-processed .jars that remain. -sc


>2.     Getting our code to work again.
>
>       Option 2.1 
>               Each project put's their jar's back in - but
>               according to the guidelines below.

+1 to 2.1; at the current time I think it's better to let each 
subproject manage this themselves as long as they follow guidelines 
(I like the /lib/ area and the requirement for clearly-named 
license/readme files to match external .jar files) -sc

The central external .jar repository is a nice one but I'm not 
sure we're quite ready to do that yet; anyways perhaps someday 
we'll have a magic JJAR/CJAN/Gump/whatever project that helps 
magically get external dependencies anyway. -sc


>Below is a list of jar's.
> ...
(list only includes xalan-related items with my comments)

>Part I
>
>Third party JAR's - which do not seem to be ASF originated (according
to
>my judgment/cursory scanning - I am going to be wrong !)

>runtime        .
>       xml-xalan
This is used only in the xsltc code in xml-xalan; not sure of status.


>bsf    . 2.2 . . .
>       xml-cocoon xml-cocoon2 xml-fop xml-stylebook xml-xalan
This is IBM's Bean Scripting Framework; not sure of the details 
of the license from this particular version but I thought it 
was an ASF-friendly IBM public license of some type.


>idb    .
>       xml-xalan
This has already been removed from CVS by dleslie.


>java_cup       .
>       xml-xalan
This is used only in the xsltc code in xml-xalan; not sure of status.


>BCEL   .
>       xml-xalan
This is used only in the xsltc code in xml-xalan; not sure of status 
of this release; current BCEL implementation is available at jakarta 
however the xalan code hasn't updated to those packages yet.


>JLex   .
>       xml-xalan
This is used only in the xsltc code in xml-xalan; not sure of status.


>Part II
>
>Jars which I ignored - as I am fairly sure they are 100% ASF. Please
>correct me if I am wrong :-)

>xerces         . 1.4.4 3.1 4.4.1
>       xml-cocoon2 xml-fop xml-stylebook xml-xalan xml-xerces xml-xerces
xml-xindice
>       xml-security
>       xml-batik
OK - This is an xml-xerces shipment and thus ASF code.


>xalanjdoc      2
>       xml-xalan
OK - This is xalan-related code that happens to be checked in 
as a .jar for convenience - all ASF stuff.


>xercesImpl     .
>       xml-xalan
OK - This is an xml-xerces shipment and thus ASF code.


>xml-apis       . . 1.0
>       xml-cocoon2 xml-xalan xml-xindice
OK - This is an xml-commons shipment and thus the .jar itself 
is ASF code although the sources in xml-commons are from external 
sources and probably need separate review.


>ant    3 1.1 4_1 . 1 1.4.1 .
>       xml-cocoon2 xml-fop xml-xalan xml-xalan xml-xerces
>       xml-batik
>       xml-cocoon xml-xindice
OK - This is a jakarta-ant shipment and thus ASF code.


>stylebookb_xalan-2     1.0 1.0 3
>       xml-batik xml-xalan
OK - This is an xml-stylebook shipment and thus ASF code.


- Shane



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