So the feeling I got from Dirk's e-mail is that the board does not want to see us fragment into
multiple TLPs that the board has to manage, as
then we simply push the problem to them.
The Board *would* prefer to see more TLPs rather than complicated structures under one large PMC. The problem here is based on one PMC trying to oversee way too many projects. Partitioning should help.
Perhaps we need to revisit the idea of separating websites and governance. Partitioning is an incremental step toward every project having a PMC. If that's the final goal, then let's just say that. All of these intermediate refactorings just force people who don't care about charters, etc to be subjected to it repeatedly. If we want a 1-1 relationship of projects and PMC's, its better to just do it rather than slowly wearing people out with repeated refactorings.
+1 with fervour.
I need to get myself clear. When I suggested in passing that Xerces maybe become a TLP as a first step in making this whole problem simpler, I was told that this is pushing the problem back to the board, so think again. So I started looking at more complex solutions.
There are two very broad long term approaches to the Jakartas and XMLs of the world.
1. We take on larger projects to let up a bit on the board. That *will* require more complex partitionings as the PMC is only human. We cannot handle large numbers of large projects with the level of immediate oversite the board is requiring. We have to put in place some form of intermediate structure to handle appropriately. Just as the board has.
2. They are simply holding projects for small growing projects, and as soon as they are large enough we create a TLP and they become the board's concern.
Personally - am very happy either way. Tell us what our final aim is, because I am 100% behind Ted's statement above. I do not want to be a part of messing people around with complicated systems only to find that it's all a waste of time :>.
The easiest way to solve this entire problem is to partition the project into multiple TLPs as Shane suggested. If that's the best alignment to the board's longer term desires, then lets just do it! Win-win for everyone!
Where do you want us to be heading? We are all yours to command :>.
Cheers,
Berin
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