Jeremias,

I was reviewing your statements[1] about how decisions are made on Apache projects, namely that on XML Graphics, committers do *not* have a vote and it is not the committers who nominate contributors for committership.

However, what you are telling us appears to contradict rules 8.2 and 8.4 of our project charter[2], which we voted for and the Apache Board already approved. The charter rules state that the committers vote on code changes and on nominations for other committers. So your clarifications made to Thomas appear incorrect, as he was actually acting within the boundaries of the XML Graphics charter in holding a committer vote for his subproject.

If it is indeed the case the XML Graphics project must follow the charter of the Apache HTTPD one (in which committer voting is forbidden) why did the board have us create our own charter, with our own unique rules? Further, if the Apache boards finds committer voting to be so reprehensible, why did they approve our charter then, which explicitly calls for that?

I think Leo Simons should explain personally why he finds committer voting to be so reprehensible that we now need to discard the XML Graphics charter rules on this issue. Also, the Apache Board will need to be sufficiently mortified by committer voting that it will declare the XML Graphics charter to be null and void. Failing that, according to the charter, you will need to run a vote among the PMC members (of which I am not one, nor plan to join for this vote) to remove votes from committers. Until then, the charter has to remain in force, with committers continuing to vote on subproject-related matters.

Whatever anyone's personal concerns with committer voting, I'm sure you agree with me that just disregarding/ignoring the charter would create a much worse problem for us down the road.

Thanks,
Glen

[1] http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=fop-dev&m=114709325926065&w=2
[2] http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=fop-dev&m=110802440807292&w=2


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