Jeremias Maerki wrote:
Only problem: ASF policy overrules any charter we give ourselves. It was
even repeatedly said on member lists that project charters are
unnecessary which I agree today since the general policy document has
improved a lot since last year.
OK then--providing the Apache Board has a generic (hopefully
lawyer-generated also) charter good for all the projects, I think we
should officially nullify our own project charter--get rid of it. For
legal reasons, it doesn't help to have two charters that conflict with
each other. The PMC members can vote to void it.
Further, if the Apache boards finds committer voting to be so
reprehensible, why did they approve our charter then, which explicitly
calls for that?
You need to keep in mind that a lot of policy stuff has been clarified
in the last 12 months.
Sure, that's normal, that happens.
Also, the Apache Board will need
to be sufficiently mortified by committer voting that it will declare
the XML Graphics charter to be null and void. Failing that, according
to the charter, you will need to run a vote among the PMC members (of
which I am not one, nor plan to join for this vote) to remove votes from
committers. Until then, the charter has to remain in force, with
committers continuing to vote on subproject-related matters.
As I said above, ASF policy comes first. The charter was built on some
assumptions which turned out to be wrong after the clarifications. What
we obviously need to do (and which I failed to recognize) is to amend
our charter so it is in line with ASF policy.
I don't think amending it is the best option--because what happens if
they fall out of sync again? Best to void the document entirely, but if
we have to retain it, then to explicitly state the "any ASF policy
overriding this charter takes precedence" and to *remove* any provision
(such as the roles of PMC members and committers) that the ASF already
has predefined. Just updating the charter provisions to bring them in
line with current ASF policy still leaves vague which has precedence.
Thanks,
Glen
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