Dr Jackson,

Thank you very much !

Best regards,

Chuangye


2009/11/13 Jennifer Jackson <[email protected]>

> Hello,
>
> An intersection search will only pull out sequence that have overlap
> between the query and target. The intersection form has options for you to
> define.
>
> If exons are defined for an mRna sequence, them the match is limited to
> exons.
>
> If the entire mRna genomic footprint is defined, then the match will bring
> in any sequence within the start and stop boundaries.
>
> The sequences that contain introns are not intronic, they represent exons.
> The introns are the gaps in the sequence,
>
I think you are right .


>
> Thanks,
> Jennifer
>
> ------------------------------------------------
> Jennifer Jackson
> UCSC Genome Bioinformatics Group
>
> ----- "Chuangye" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > From: "Chuangye" <[email protected]>
> > To: "Jennifer Jackson" <[email protected]>, [email protected]
> > Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 12:56:31 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada
> Pacific
> > Subject: Re: [Genome] What differences between these ests
> >
> > Dear Dr Jackson,
> >
> > Thank you for your reply! I have read your Email 3 times, but I don't
> > sure
> > understand you completely.
> >
> > From your letter, can I to say if the
> > region(chr3:173,402,247-173,402,431)
> > hasn't EL584176, only other 14 intronic ESTs, and MER53 (
> > chr3:173402247-173402431) will intersect no intronic ESTs with Table
> > Browser? Is this all right?
> >
> > That is may be a naive question ? But I nearly don't sure.
> >
> > Thank you again !
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > Chuangye
> >
> > 2009/11/11 Jennifer Jackson <[email protected]>
> >
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > The coordinates will only pull out a sequence if there is overlap in
> > the
> > > *matched bases* of the alignment between the target (est, mrna,
> > etc.) and
> > > the genomic sequence. The intron region is not a part of the aligned
> > base
> > > set for all but one of the ests, the region represents *unmatched
> > bases* for
> > > these. So a search will only pull out the single (suspicious)
> > sequence with
> > > the intron alignment with matched bases at this location. From
> > experience,
> > > this single sequence seems like it is probably genomic contamination
> > from
> > > the EST's library construction process. But, you can check out the
> > genbank
> > > record and the other sequences from the clone's library and make
> > your own
> > > decision about that. However, remember that not all lone genomic
> > fragments
> > > have had their function characterized, so it may be "real", no one
> > knows for
> > > certain yet. The sequence is certainly not a gene in the traditional
> > sense,
> > > but perhaps something else.
> > >
> > > One method of finding sequences that overlap a certain region with a
> > global
> > > footprint (instead of per exon == *matched bases*) is to create a
> > custom
> > > track using the Table browser that only contains the txtStart and
> > txtEnd and
> > > leave out the extra data columns that specify where the exons are
> > (BED4 or
> > > similar http://genome.ucsc.edu/FAQ/FAQformat#format1). Using that
> > file
> > > would cause the intron region to have a "hit" against the BED4
> > custom track
> > > file, since the entire genomic footprint of the sequence's alignment
> > is
> > > considered (introns are not omitted).
> > >
> > > Some Table browser help with examples (follow the links):
> > >
> > http://genome.ucsc.edu/goldenPath/help/hgTracksHelp.html#TableBrowser
> > >
> > > Glad we could help,
> > >
> > > Jennifer
> > >
> > > ------------------------------------------------
> > > Jennifer Jackson
> > > UCSC Genome Bioinformatics Group
> > >
> > > ----- "Chuangye" <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >
> > > > From: "Chuangye" <[email protected]>
> > > > To: "Jennifer Jackson" <[email protected]>,
> > [email protected]
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 7:36:12 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada
> > Pacific
> > > > Subject: Re: [Genome] What differences between these ests
> > > >
> > > > Dear Dr Jackson ,
> > > >
> > > > Thank you very much! That is to say, except EL584176, other ESTs
> > in
> > > > this
> > > > region are introns corresponding to genome.
> > > >
> > > > And I have one more question that other ESTs coordinates are
> > > > following:
> > > >  chr3    173240131       173448143       DA850742        0
> > +
> > > > 173240131       173448143       0       6
> > 124,34,105,76,77,127,
> > > > 0,72804,72838,93823,187223,207885,  chr3    173240131
> > 173448196
> > > > DA864040        0       +       173240131       173448196       0
> > > >  6
> > > > 124,34,105,76,77,180,   0,72804,72838,93823,187223,207885,  chr3
> > > > 173240134       173448235       DA863440        0       +
> > > > 173240134
> > > > 173448235       0       5       121,139,76,76,219,
> > > > 0,72801,93820,187220,207882,  chr3    173240181       173448184
> > > > CN289921        0       +       173240181       173448184       0
> > > >  5
> > > > 74,139,76,77,168,       0,72754,93773,187173,207835,  chr3
> > > > 173241037
> > > > 173448225       DB235484        0       +       173241037
> > > > 173448225
> > > > 0       5       71,139,76,77,209,
> > 0,71898,92917,186317,206979,
> > > > chr3
> > > > 173241038       173448223       DA723804        0       +
> > > > 173241038
> > > > 173448223       0       5       70,139,76,77,207,
> > > > 0,71897,92916,186316,206978,  chr3    173247393       173448241
> > > > DB076759        0       +       173247393       173448241       0
> > > >  5
> > > > 38,139,76,77,225,       0,65542,86561,179961,200623,  chr3
> > > > 173312934
> > > > 173451906       BI561806        0       +       173312934
> > > > 173451906
> > > > 0       28
> > > >
> > >
> >
> 56,83,13,41,22,77,40,32,14,7,8,7,17,18,4,6,5,13,14,15,5,17,14,17,25,5,66,10,
> > > >
> > >
> >
> 0,57,21020,21033,21074,114420,135082,135122,135162,135176,135183,135191,135198,135215,135233,135237,135248,135253,135266,135286,135301,135307,138807,138846,138865,138890,138896,138962,
> > > > chr3    173312938       173427430       BF992955        0       +
> > > > 173312938       173427430       0       7
> > 12,12,11,4,94,76,76,
> > > > 0,15,27,38,42,21016,114416,  chr3    173312981       173448163
> > > > AW748812        0       +       173312981       173448163       0
> > > >  8
> > > > 5,4,6,15,63,76,77,147,  0,5,9,15,30,20973,114373,135035,  chr3
> > > > 173327456
> > > > 173427747       DB067370        0       +       173327456
> > > > 173427747
> > > > 0       3       85,76,393,      0,6498,99898,
> > > >  chr3    173327460       173451940       BG722524        0
> > +
> > > > 173327460       173451940       0       5       81,76,77,244,197,
> > > > 0,6494,99894,120556,124283,  chr3    173333995       173448120
> > > > BE082404        0       -       173333995       173448120       0
> > > >  4
> > > > 35,77,36,68,    0,93359,114021,114057, The coordinate of MER53 is
> > > > chr3:173402247-173402431<
> > >
> >
> http://genome.ucsc.edu/cgi-bin/hgTracks?hgsid=146499668&db=hg18&position=chr3%3A173402247-173402431
> > > >,
> > > > why I intersect it with human ESTs used Table browser returned
> > only
> > > > EL584176 ? But if consider coordinates, these ESTs are all
> > intersect
> > > > with
> > > > it. Could you tell me the reasons ? Thank you !
> > > >
> > > > Best regards,
> > > >
> > > > Chuangye
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 2009/11/10 Jennifer Jackson <[email protected]>
> > > >
> > > > > Hello,
> > > > >
> > > > > The dark bar is an exon - this display is an indication that
> > there
> > > > is a
> > > > > base level alignment at this position between the EST and the
> > > > genome. The
> > > > > rest of the data (other sequences) appears to support the idea
> > that
> > > > this is
> > > > > instead an intronic region (no mRna/Est alignments at this
> > location,
> > > > but at
> > > > > locations at one or either edge).
> > > > >
> > > > > Zoom out a few levels to see the big picture. Then try 10x to
> > see
> > > > where the
> > > > > other sequence have exons.
> > > > >
> > > > > We hope this helps,
> > > > > Jennifer
> > > > >
> > > > > ------------------------------------------------
> > > > > Jennifer Jackson
> > > > > UCSC Genome Bioinformatics Group
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- "Chuangye" <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > From: "Chuangye" <[email protected]>
> > > > > > To: [email protected]
> > > > > > Sent: Monday, November 9, 2009 4:14:28 AM GMT -08:00
> > US/Canada
> > > > Pacific
> > > > > > Subject: [Genome] What differences between these ests
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Dear sir,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thank you for reading my Email!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > First, please set "chr3:173,402,247-173,402,431" in your
> > > > > > "position/search"
> > > > > > of UCSC Browser. Then set "full" of "Human EST" in "mRNA and
> > EST
> > > > > > Tracks".
> > > > > > And "Refresh". OK, now you will see the picture of the
> > attached
> > > > > > figure. As
> > > > > > you will see, a few ESTs with thin lines plus arrows but only
> > one
> > > > with
> > > > > > thick
> > > > > > line at the bottom with no arrows as upper ESTs. OK. My
> > question
> > > > is
> > > > > > what the
> > > > > > differences between the last one
> > > > > > (EL584176<
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Search&db=nucest&term=EL584176&doptcmdl=GenBank&tool=genome.ucsc.edu
> > > > > >)
> > > > > > with others ?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thank you!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Best wishes,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Chuangye
> > > > > >
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