It sounds like in your usage case you'll want to go with gfPcr.

On Jul 21, 2010, at 5:39 PM, Gregory Dougherty wrote:

> Hi Jim,
> 
> Unfortunately, the nodes in the cluster I'll probably be using only have 2GB 
> per CPU, so I'll be better off if I can partition the task into two 2GB 
> chunks.
> 
> So, the situation is that I don't have a dedicated server.  I have users who 
> might have (at most) 20 pairs of primers that they will want to validate at 
> once (i.e. "do these primers target my gene / region of interest?"  "What's 
> the size of the product they'll produce?" "Is there anything else they 
> target?").  It's for a research lab at Mayo Clinic, and it MIGHT get used, at 
> most, a couple of times a day.
> 
> My reading is that while we could send our users to the UCSC In-Silico PCR 
> Web page, we can NOT access it from our own program.  Correct?
> 
> Am I going to be spending minutes launching isPcr, and then seconds actually 
> getting results?  Is it possible to pre-compute the indexes, and then just 
> load them in as necessary?
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> Greg
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jim Kent" <[email protected]>
> To: "Gregory Dougherty" <[email protected]>
> Cc: [email protected]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 7:45:52 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central
> Subject: Re: [Genome] Finding where Primers hit
> 
> Hi - if you are doing a lot of primers at once usually you want to use isPcr. 
>   If you want to have a server set up that will quickly align a few primers 
> at a time use gfPcr.  The memory these days is generally not a problem.  I 
> think 4 gig is enough for the whole genome for isPcr.
> 
> 
> On Jul 20, 2010, at 11:56 PM, Gregory Dougherty wrote:
> 
>> Thank you Hiram and Jim for pointing me in the right direction.
>> 
>> Looking at the code, for my situation I have two workable choices: gfPcr or 
>> isPcr.
>> 
>> Questions:
>> 1: Is gfPcr actually a workable choice?  I.E. will it let me search for hits 
>> from 18 base primers, and will it be as successful as isPcr at finding hits?
>> 
>> 2: The ReadMe says that isPcr "builds its own index".  Is it creating it's 
>> own index, or loaded an already calculated one from files?
>> 
>> 3; For isPcr, roughly how much is "a lot of memory"?  In particular, roughly 
>> how much space does it take from Chr1, and roughly how much does it take for 
>> the whole human genome?
>> 
>> Thanks again,
>> 
>> Greg
>> 
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Jim Kent" <[email protected]>
>> To: "Gregory Dougherty" <[email protected]>
>> Cc: [email protected]
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 1:52:22 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central
>> Subject: Re: [Genome] Finding where Primers hit
>> 
>> Please use In Silico PCR, which was designed just for this purpose.
>> 
>> On Jul 20, 2010, at 4:51 PM, Gregory Dougherty wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> I hope this isn't a FAQ, I couldn't find any way to search the archives.
>>> 
>>> I am writing a program that takes pairs of PCR Primer sequences, and 
>>> returns the products they will produce when used w/ human DNA.  My first 
>>> thought was to use BLAT to figure out where the primers match the genome.  
>>> While this has worked well with test primers that are 20+ bases long, BLAT 
>>> won't run on smaller Primers, and my users have Primers as small as 18 
>>> bases.
>>> 
>>> Is BLAT a reasonable tool to use for solving this problem?  If we download 
>>> the source, change the 20 base limit to 18, and then run that BLAT, will 
>>> that work?  Work only if the sequence is a perfect match?  Fail miserably?
>>> 
>>> May be OT: Can I get Blast to tell me WHERE the primer hit in the item it 
>>> hit in?  "Homo sapiens chromosome 17 genomic contig, GRCh37 reference 
>>> primary assembly, Length=21169982" really isn't a very useful hit report.
>>> 
>>> Thanks in advance,
>>> 
>>> Greg
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