Hello Hannah,

The self-chain uses blastz to make it's alignments.  You can see the
method here:
http://genome.ucsc.edu/cgi-bin/hgTrackUi?db=hg19&g=chainSelf

BLAT is a different aligner and so will align different things than
blastz does.  This is not an error. There is no one correct alignment
between any two DNA sequences because the different aligners don't
know the real history of the DNA segments in question.   It is up to
the researcher to choose an alignment that they think is the best one
based on their understanding of the region in question, and the
general behavior of their chosen aligner.

I hope this answers your question.  If you have follow up questions,
please post them to this list.

Brian

On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 2:04 PM, Cheung, Hannah <[email protected]> wrote:
> To Whom It May Concern,
>
> How do the BLAT and Self-Chain algorithms differ? The reason I ask is shown 
> below.
> In trying to look at differences among the MHC haplotypes, I did a BLAT 
> search on the following sequence:
>
>>seq1
> ACAGACCCCAGCTTTACAAGGACCCCAGCTCCTTAACACAGATCCCAGCTCCGAGGAAACTCGTCCCCCCCACGTTAATCCTGACCGACTTTGCCACATG
> BLAT Search Results
>
>   ACTIONS      QUERY           SCORE START  END QSIZE IDENTITY CHRO STRAND  
> START    END      SPAN
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> browser<http://genome.ucsc.edu/cgi-bin/hgTracks?position=chr6_mann_hap4:2454805-2454904&db=hg19&ss=../trash/hgSs/hgSs_genome_a22_b1d170.pslx+../trash/hgSs/hgSs_genome_a22_b1d170.fa&hgsid=185182739>
>  
> details<http://genome.ucsc.edu/cgi-bin/hgc?o=2454804&g=htcUserAli&i=../trash/hgSs/hgSs_genome_a22_b1d170.pslx+..%2Ftrash%2FhgSs%2FhgSs_genome_a22_b1d170.fa+YourSeq&c=chr6_mann_hap4&l=2454804&r=2454904&db=hg19&hgsid=185182739>
>  YourSeq          100     1   100   100 100.0%  6_mann_hap4   +    2454805   
> 2454904    100
> browser<http://genome.ucsc.edu/cgi-bin/hgTracks?position=chr6_dbb_hap3:2403575-2403674&db=hg19&ss=../trash/hgSs/hgSs_genome_a22_b1d170.pslx+../trash/hgSs/hgSs_genome_a22_b1d170.fa&hgsid=185182739>
>  
> details<http://genome.ucsc.edu/cgi-bin/hgc?o=2403574&g=htcUserAli&i=../trash/hgSs/hgSs_genome_a22_b1d170.pslx+..%2Ftrash%2FhgSs%2FhgSs_genome_a22_b1d170.fa+YourSeq&c=chr6_dbb_hap3&l=2403574&r=2403674&db=hg19&hgsid=185182739>
>  YourSeq          100     1   100   100 100.0%  6_dbb_hap3   +    2403575   
> 2403674    100
> browser<http://genome.ucsc.edu/cgi-bin/hgTracks?position=chr6_cox_hap2:2621159-2621258&db=hg19&ss=../trash/hgSs/hgSs_genome_a22_b1d170.pslx+../trash/hgSs/hgSs_genome_a22_b1d170.fa&hgsid=185182739>
>  
> details<http://genome.ucsc.edu/cgi-bin/hgc?o=2621158&g=htcUserAli&i=../trash/hgSs/hgSs_genome_a22_b1d170.pslx+..%2Ftrash%2FhgSs%2FhgSs_genome_a22_b1d170.fa+YourSeq&c=chr6_cox_hap2&l=2621158&r=2621258&db=hg19&hgsid=185182739>
>  YourSeq          100     1   100   100 100.0%  6_cox_hap2   +    2621159   
> 2621258    100
> browser<http://genome.ucsc.edu/cgi-bin/hgTracks?position=chr6:31106437-31106536&db=hg19&ss=../trash/hgSs/hgSs_genome_a22_b1d170.pslx+../trash/hgSs/hgSs_genome_a22_b1d170.fa&hgsid=185182739>
>  
> details<http://genome.ucsc.edu/cgi-bin/hgc?o=31106436&g=htcUserAli&i=../trash/hgSs/hgSs_genome_a22_b1d170.pslx+..%2Ftrash%2FhgSs%2FhgSs_genome_a22_b1d170.fa+YourSeq&c=chr6&l=31106436&r=31106536&db=hg19&hgsid=185182739>
>  YourSeq          100     1   100   100 100.0%     6   +   31106437  31106536 
>    100
> browser<http://genome.ucsc.edu/cgi-bin/hgTracks?position=chr6_mcf_hap5:2488382-2488481&db=hg19&ss=../trash/hgSs/hgSs_genome_a22_b1d170.pslx+../trash/hgSs/hgSs_genome_a22_b1d170.fa&hgsid=185182739>
>  
> details<http://genome.ucsc.edu/cgi-bin/hgc?o=2488381&g=htcUserAli&i=../trash/hgSs/hgSs_genome_a22_b1d170.pslx+..%2Ftrash%2FhgSs%2FhgSs_genome_a22_b1d170.fa+YourSeq&c=chr6_mcf_hap5&l=2488381&r=2488481&db=hg19&hgsid=185182739>
>  YourSeq           98     1   100   100  99.0%  6_mcf_hap5   +    2488382   
> 2488481    100
> browser<http://genome.ucsc.edu/cgi-bin/hgTracks?position=chr6_qbl_hap6:2402283-2402381&db=hg19&ss=../trash/hgSs/hgSs_genome_a22_b1d170.pslx+../trash/hgSs/hgSs_genome_a22_b1d170.fa&hgsid=185182739>
>  
> details<http://genome.ucsc.edu/cgi-bin/hgc?o=2402282&g=htcUserAli&i=../trash/hgSs/hgSs_genome_a22_b1d170.pslx+..%2Ftrash%2FhgSs%2FhgSs_genome_a22_b1d170.fa+YourSeq&c=chr6_qbl_hap6&l=2402282&r=2402381&db=hg19&hgsid=185182739>
>  YourSeq           96     1   100   100  96.0%  6_qbl_hap6   +    2402283   
> 2402381     99
> browser<http://genome.ucsc.edu/cgi-bin/hgTracks?position=chr17:8526697-8526717&db=hg19&ss=../trash/hgSs/hgSs_genome_a22_b1d170.pslx+../trash/hgSs/hgSs_genome_a22_b1d170.fa&hgsid=185182739>
>  
> details<http://genome.ucsc.edu/cgi-bin/hgc?o=8526696&g=htcUserAli&i=../trash/hgSs/hgSs_genome_a22_b1d170.pslx+..%2Ftrash%2FhgSs%2FhgSs_genome_a22_b1d170.fa+YourSeq&c=chr17&l=8526696&r=8526717&db=hg19&hgsid=185182739>
>  YourSeq           21    22    42   100 100.0%    17   -    8526697   8526717 
>     21
>
>
>
>
> The MANN (6_mann_hap4) result shows a perfect alignment.
> The QBL (6_qbl_hap6) result shows one polymorphism and one insertion.
>
> Next, I did a BLAT on a subset of this sequence that includes the 
> polymorphism and insertion sites:
>>seq2
> CCGAGGAAACTCGTCCCCCCCGTTAATCCTGACCGACTT
>
> BLAT Search Results
>
>   ACTIONS      QUERY           SCORE START  END QSIZE IDENTITY CHRO STRAND  
> START    END      SPAN
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> browser<http://genome.ucsc.edu/cgi-bin/hgTracks?position=chr6_mann_hap4:2454855-2454895&db=hg19&ss=../trash/hgSs/hgSs_genome_1458_b24af0.pslx+../trash/hgSs/hgSs_genome_1458_b24af0.fa&hgsid=185185025>
>  
> details<http://genome.ucsc.edu/cgi-bin/hgc?o=2454854&g=htcUserAli&i=../trash/hgSs/hgSs_genome_1458_b24af0.pslx+..%2Ftrash%2FhgSs%2FhgSs_genome_1458_b24af0.fa+YourSeq&c=chr6_mann_hap4&l=2454854&r=2454895&db=hg19&hgsid=185185025>
>  YourSeq           38     1    39    39 100.0%  6_mann_hap4   +    2454855   
> 2454895     41
> browser<http://genome.ucsc.edu/cgi-bin/hgTracks?position=chr6_dbb_hap3:2403625-2403665&db=hg19&ss=../trash/hgSs/hgSs_genome_1458_b24af0.pslx+../trash/hgSs/hgSs_genome_1458_b24af0.fa&hgsid=185185025>
>  
> details<http://genome.ucsc.edu/cgi-bin/hgc?o=2403624&g=htcUserAli&i=../trash/hgSs/hgSs_genome_1458_b24af0.pslx+..%2Ftrash%2FhgSs%2FhgSs_genome_1458_b24af0.fa+YourSeq&c=chr6_dbb_hap3&l=2403624&r=2403665&db=hg19&hgsid=185185025>
>  YourSeq           38     1    39    39 100.0%  6_dbb_hap3   +    2403625   
> 2403665     41
> browser<http://genome.ucsc.edu/cgi-bin/hgTracks?position=chr6_cox_hap2:2621209-2621249&db=hg19&ss=../trash/hgSs/hgSs_genome_1458_b24af0.pslx+../trash/hgSs/hgSs_genome_1458_b24af0.fa&hgsid=185185025>
>  
> details<http://genome.ucsc.edu/cgi-bin/hgc?o=2621208&g=htcUserAli&i=../trash/hgSs/hgSs_genome_1458_b24af0.pslx+..%2Ftrash%2FhgSs%2FhgSs_genome_1458_b24af0.fa+YourSeq&c=chr6_cox_hap2&l=2621208&r=2621249&db=hg19&hgsid=185185025>
>  YourSeq           38     1    39    39 100.0%  6_cox_hap2   +    2621209   
> 2621249     41
> browser<http://genome.ucsc.edu/cgi-bin/hgTracks?position=chr6:31106487-31106527&db=hg19&ss=../trash/hgSs/hgSs_genome_1458_b24af0.pslx+../trash/hgSs/hgSs_genome_1458_b24af0.fa&hgsid=185185025>
>  
> details<http://genome.ucsc.edu/cgi-bin/hgc?o=31106486&g=htcUserAli&i=../trash/hgSs/hgSs_genome_1458_b24af0.pslx+..%2Ftrash%2FhgSs%2FhgSs_genome_1458_b24af0.fa+YourSeq&c=chr6&l=31106486&r=31106527&db=hg19&hgsid=185185025>
>  YourSeq           38     1    39    39 100.0%     6   +   31106487  31106527 
>     41
> browser<http://genome.ucsc.edu/cgi-bin/hgTracks?position=chr6_qbl_hap6:2402333-2402372&db=hg19&ss=../trash/hgSs/hgSs_genome_1458_b24af0.pslx+../trash/hgSs/hgSs_genome_1458_b24af0.fa&hgsid=185185025>
>  
> details<http://genome.ucsc.edu/cgi-bin/hgc?o=2402332&g=htcUserAli&i=../trash/hgSs/hgSs_genome_1458_b24af0.pslx+..%2Ftrash%2FhgSs%2FhgSs_genome_1458_b24af0.fa+YourSeq&c=chr6_qbl_hap6&l=2402332&r=2402372&db=hg19&hgsid=185185025>
>  YourSeq           36     1    39    39  97.5%  6_qbl_hap6   +    2402333   
> 2402372     40
> browser<http://genome.ucsc.edu/cgi-bin/hgTracks?position=chr6_mcf_hap5:2488432-2488472&db=hg19&ss=../trash/hgSs/hgSs_genome_1458_b24af0.pslx+../trash/hgSs/hgSs_genome_1458_b24af0.fa&hgsid=185185025>
>  
> details<http://genome.ucsc.edu/cgi-bin/hgc?o=2488431&g=htcUserAli&i=../trash/hgSs/hgSs_genome_1458_b24af0.pslx+..%2Ftrash%2FhgSs%2FhgSs_genome_1458_b24af0.fa+YourSeq&c=chr6_mcf_hap5&l=2488431&r=2488472&db=hg19&hgsid=185185025>
>  YourSeq           34     1    39    39  94.9%  6_mcf_hap5   +    2488432   
> 2488472     41
>
>
> This time:
>
> The MANN result shows me a deletion of AC.
>
> The QBL result shows me that the polymorphism is present, but that there is a 
> deletion rather than an insertion 8 bp away from the polymorphism site.
>
> Furthermore, the Self-Chain alignment within the MANN result shows that the 
> QBL has a different base deleted than the one shown in the QBL result.
>
> Why the discrepancies?
>
>
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Hannah Cheung, PhD
> Postdoctoral Associate
> Plon Lab
> 1102 Bates Ave
> Rm.1200.18
> Texas Children's Hospital
> Houston, TX 77030
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