On Fri, Jan 02, 2004 at 04:23:41AM -0500, Rajiv Aaron Manglani wrote:
> hello all. i will be giving 2 presentations on gentoo at MIT 
> (Massachusetts Institute of Technology) in Cambridge, MA, USA, on 1/8 
> and 1/13. they are open to anyone who rsvps.
[...]

A couple of (silly) remarks if you don't mind :) It's based on the
presentation material available on your dev-space which you say is a bit
outdated, so apologies if you have already fixed those issues...

Page 2 of your presentation sais that Gentoo was started 5 years ago by
Daniel. Enoch was started in 1999 (which is now 5 years ago), but the name
Gentoo was first introduced in 2000.

Page 2 of your presentation sais that Gentoo (officially?) supports x86, ppc,
sparc and alpha. I believe hppa and mips are also officially supported and
that amd64 is in the running.

Page 5 of your presentation sais that the scripts download, compile and
install. Perhaps you might mention "patch" too which is a very important
aspect of the ebuilds.

Page 5 of your presentation gives some outdated versions:
        glibc 2.2.5 -> 2.3.2
        gcc   3.2.1 -> 3.2.3
        xfree 4.2   -> 4.3
        KDE   3.0.5 -> 3.1.4
        Gnome 2.0.2 -> 2.4

Page 5 of your presentation gives some bootloaders (grub, lilo, yaboot,
bootx). Perhaps you can mention the others too (aboot, milo, silo, palo)?

Page 5 of your presentation gives some kernel examples. Do add 2.6 :)

Page 5 of your presentation mentions prelinking and ccache. Perhaps distcc is
worth mentioning too?

Page 9 of your presentation sais that a net connection is required for
installation, which isn't the case anymore (it was with the rc's).

Page 9 of your presentation sais that it is "secure by default". I don't know
if you should add it here, but there is a feature called sfperms which will
improve privileges on setuid/setgid files.

Page 15 of your presentation enters some "coming soon". The following items
have already been integrated:
        - distcc
        - cpan/portage integration
        - cd-based installers
The following projects have stopped (correct me if I'm wrong plz):
        - s/390 port
        - embedded devices (pebenito?)
        - cvsup instead of rsync

Perhaps new items can be:
        - portage-ng
        - official AMD 64 support
        - udev support
        - ... 

Page 16 of your presentation talks about a 16-230 MiB iso images. Our basic
has grown out of these proportions. The new size range is about 95 - 600 MiB.

Page 16 of your presentations talks about the UT 2003 LiveCD, but that's
quite old now. A UT 2004 LiveCD will probably be available (see Daniel's
latest mails).

Page 16 of your presentation talks about LiveCDs for x86 and PPC. LiveCDs are
however available for: alpha, amd64, hppa (albeit outdated), ppc, sparc and
x86.

Page 17 of your presentation talks about the documentation. Please mention
the handbook as primary source for:
        - installation instructions
        - portage (user-level)
        - init scripts
        - environment variables
        - USE flags

Page 18 of your presentation talks about the Gentoo Community. It might be
interesting giving some numbers. From what I gather:
        - The forums have > 1000 posts per day and over 100 000 topics
        - There are more than 15 active mailinglists and +40 mailinglist in
          general
        - #gentoo is freenode's biggest channel (700+ users)
        - We have +50 channels
        - bugtracking has more than 20 000 hits per day
        - our social contract ensures the community that 
                * we will never depend on non-free software
                * we will remain freely available
                * we move bugreports upstream ourselves if needed
                * we have an open bug process/development

One thing I miss in the presentation is a small talk about the organisation:
the projects and their goals. Also mentioning the GWN would be nice (although
you probably do that during the speach).


And finally, the Gentoo PR project is currently working on a presentation
template all Gentoo developers can use. I will also write up a document on
how presentations could be created and we will try to bundle all
presentations made for/by Gentoo so that updates in the distribution quickly
propagate to the presentations themselves.

That's it for now.

Wkr,
        Sven Vermeulen

-- 
 ^__^   And Larry saw that it was Good.
 (oo)                                      Sven Vermeulen
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