On Wed, 2005-01-05 at 14:01 -0500, Mike Frysinger wrote:
> On Wednesday 05 January 2005 01:36 pm, Marius Mauch wrote:
> > Honestly I don't know if stage1 ever had a fully populated /var/db/pkg,
> > could be that it was always done that way and just nobody noticed.
> 
> i'm pretty sure it has been
> 
> the way release media (i.e. stages) is created was always a dark art no one 
> knew anything about (except a few core people).  then catalyst came along and 
> it inherited a lot of the dark baggage (and none of those core people)

I definitely see a lot of it every time I delve into the catalyst code.
Piece by piece the old stuff is being replaced with things that make
more sense.

> theres no point in getting angry at people over 'lack of bugs' and such ... 
> people just dont know how things 'should be done' because this is just the 
> way it's *always* been done (at least as long as they've been here) ... that 
> probably includes zhen :).  i myself have asked questions about why certain 
> things are done in a stage1 and no one replies (-> no one knows, the people 
> who do are long gone)

I can understand that.

> i'll happily work with you in getting bootstrap.sh up-to-speed with stage1's 
> that include a full /var/db/pkg ... i dont think many here have been around 
> long enough to know how much work (read: hacks) it took in the past just so 
> that people going from a stage1 didnt have to build their toolchain 
> (gcc/glibc) twice.  nor should a toolchain be built twice imho.

Sweet.  This is really the only part holding me back.  I can commit the
fixes to catalyst to not clean /var/db/pkg right now, if you want.  That
will give you something to work against.

-- 
Chris Gianelloni
Release Engineering - Operational/QA Manager
Games - Developer
Gentoo Linux

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