On Wed, 2005-01-05 at 14:01 -0500, Mike Frysinger wrote:
> the way release media (i.e. stages) is created was always a dark art no one 
> knew anything about (except a few core people).  then catalyst came along and 
> it inherited a lot of the dark baggage (and none of those core people)
> 

Yeah, when drobbins split, alot of the answers to "why is this done like
this" went with him. Not that its his fault though, a lot of his hacks
were necessary at the time.

> theres no point in getting angry at people over 'lack of bugs' and such ... 
> people just dont know how things 'should be done' because this is just the 
> way it's *always* been done (at least as long as they've been here) ... that 
> probably includes zhen :).  i myself have asked questions about why certain 
> things are done in a stage1 and no one replies (-> no one knows, the people 
> who do are long gone)
> 

I ask myself the same questions ;) Every now and again, I go through the
code for stage1 creation and go "wtf?", then try to fix what is broken
the best that I can. I am very open to patches, as Mike can attest to,
so if anyone sees something that is broken and has not been fixed by
either myself or Chris, please file a bug and mail the both of us. There
is always a better way to do something.

> i'll happily work with you in getting bootstrap.sh up-to-speed with stage1's 
> that include a full /var/db/pkg ... i dont think many here have been around 
> long enough to know how much work (read: hacks) it took in the past just so 
> that people going from a stage1 didnt have to build their toolchain 
> (gcc/glibc) twice.  nor should a toolchain be built twice imho.
> -mike

Ewww, hacks.

Anyway, from what I have read, it looks like default x86 does not need a
set of 2.4 stages, right? I could have missed something in the last 80
mails in this thread though ...

Cheers,
//John
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John Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
The Gentoo Foundation
Trustee | Release Engineering Manager | Catalyst code monkey

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