On Thu, 2005-01-20 at 18:01 +0000, Paul Waring wrote:
> On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 11:34:34 -0500, Chris Gianelloni
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > 2. Write your own ebuilds and keep them up to date (which is usually
> > > what I do for PEAR stuff) using portage overlay to be able to emerge
> > > them normally
> > 
> > Another good possibility, though a bit more complex.
> 
> Unfortunately it's the only way to do it sometimes if there's a
> package in portage that you want upgrading but hasn't been done (i.e.
> it's actually out of date rather than just ~arch), short of either
> becoming a dev or submitting new ebuilds and hoping someone will have
> time to check and commit them. For PEAR it's not really complex,
> because all the ebuilds use the same structure as far as I can tell
> (although I haven't really tested them yet).

You should definitely submit them.  If you need them, chances are
someone else will, too.  Also, in many cases the reason that a package
is not updated is because the maintainer/herd either doesn't know that a
newer version exists or hasn't had time to write the ebuild.  When you
provide an ebuild for a package, it makes it that much easier for us to
get it into portage.

> > > 3. Become a dev, setup loads of test machines and unmask stuff yourself
> > 
> > Correct, provided you aren't trying to bypass a minimal useful testing
> > period.  Doing so could have your developer status reviewed.
> 
> Well yes, I'm not advocating a complete lack of testing, just saying
> that if there was a greater range and number of test environments
> available you wouldn't perhaps have to wait as long as 30 days before
> unmasking something, especially if it was for a non-critical program
> (although I suppose every package is critical to someone :).

I think you wouldn't be a developer for very long.  Unless you have a
few hundred machines of different architectures and configurations,
including different USE and CFLAGS, I doubt you could give a package
nearly the testing that it would receive from 30 days in testing.
Remember that not everyone syncs their tree every day.

> > At the same time, I know that we're always looking for more talented
> > people to help out in many areas, so if you really are interested, then
> > you should contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] and see if they have a position
> > in your area of interest.
> 
> Somehow I think the chances of that happening are rather slim. :)

Did you try?

http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/devrel/staffing-needs/index.xml

There is also a fair amount of needs that are not reflected in that
page.

-- 
Chris Gianelloni
Release Engineering - Operational/QA Manager
Games - Developer
Gentoo Linux

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