On Sun, 2005-01-23 at 10:41 -0500, Chris Gianelloni wrote:
> On Sun, 2005-01-23 at 18:17 +0100, Patrick Lauer wrote:
> > I feel that you are answering "the grass is green" whenever I ask you
> > for the time of the day. Hmmm ... 
> 
> ...and you and Daniel are answering with a question every time we ask a
> direct question or ask you to refute something we've said.

Erm. Wow. So you get to play both sides of the argument?
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> > > And out in the adult world, sometimes the rules have to be broken.  
> > > That's why 
> > > an educated dev is more use to us than a dev who is also told "you have 
> > > to do 
> > > this every time, and the software won't let you do it any other way just 
> > > to 
> > > make sure".
> > repoman
> 
> Repoman doesn't even work in gentoo-x86/eclass, thanks for playing.
Thanks for not listening, moron.

repoman is a technical solution for what used to be a "social" problem
(devs mangling keywords and not keywording all deps etc.)

> > I think at this point we should change our strategy:
> > 
> > At some point in time, we bribe the doc people to post a new policy and
> > commit stuff all across the tree. Then you'll have to use it.
> 
> Excellent, except the same people that post developer policy are the
> same people that would be examining your actions and deciding whether or
> not you'll be sticking around once the complaints start rolling in from
> developers and users alike.  There's also that fun thing about being
> able to revert a commit that you seem to forget, after all, the
> inability to revert a commit seems to be your prime reason for this
> proposal.
Erm. eh ... that's not the point

But at the moment we have a standoff where nothing moves.
Once something has happened, there's a small chance of it not being
undone, which is a lot larger than nothing at all.

> > P.S. That strategy has been used by a few devs in the past and had on
> > average positive results ...
> 
> Usually it was because their ideas made sense and worked, not because
> they were a vocal minority with a technically inferior solution to a
> non-existent problem.  Perhaps it is time you rethink your position, but
> I don't see that happening any more than I see our moon suddenly raining
> cheese on Ethiopia.
*cough* MacOS *cough*

I remember the whining and yelling and clawing ...

"omgomgomg!! you can't do that!!!" .... but then it just stuck.
and grew. and is now mostly accepted.

> > P.P.S. If you find any form of sarcasm, cynism or humor, you can keep
> > it.
> 
> It is "cynicism".  There's no need to be funny.  Your proposal is
> humorous enough on its own.
Oh sorry. Since english is not my native language I sometimes err.

And I'm not trying to be funny. If I was, you'd know (or at least I hope
you'd do)

Anyway, enjoy yourself,


Patrick

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