28.2.2006, 15:00:49, Stephen P. Becker wrote: >> What kind of non-interactivity? What's this universal non-interactivity >> blurb of yours and ciaranm's about? There's no such thing when it comes to >> configuration. If you want automated "configuration", then please use >> Windows and stop moaning. If you don't want to read manpages or at least >> --help, then please use Windows as well. If you want to use non-default >> setup, then you need to change default values, that's what common sense >> dictates at least. And don't use the (non)-interactivity magical formular in >> a context where it has zero sense.
> No! You are completely missing the point. The non-interactivity of > which we speak is the idea that when you emerge some package, it is > perfectly reasonable (and in fact should be required) to expect that > package to install to your userland with no further prodding. There > should be no USE collisions which cause the emerge to die. There should > be no default configuration which will break other packages in the tree > by default. > Note that in no way am I talking about auto-configuration, as that would > be silly. The example problem with webapp-config which I have described > here forces a user to intervene to get packages to install to the proper > location. This is not desirable. Selecting a webserver to use with a webapp package is a part of configuration. So again, the whole non-interactive idea is irrelevant wrt webapp-config and non-default setups. No defaults in default config won't work/won't improve anything either, since some webapps need to have their config files server-owned. Running a server and webapps is not a no-brainer which should just automagically work; to the contrary - users should think about what they are doing or they just should run a server app. > Basically, I really don't see why webapp-config can't have some logic > built in which makes it smart enough to figure out which webserver > somebody is using. Sure, you can make webapp-config depend on virtual/magic where RDEPEND="|| ( app-admin/artificial-intelligence app-admin/mind-reader ) and then emerge lighttpd apache <a couple of servers here> <some random webapps here> I think it's pretty much obvious that this just won't work since such virtual doesn't and won't exist. -- Best regards, Jakub Moc mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG signature: http://subkeys.pgp.net:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xCEBA3D9E Primary key fingerprint: D2D7 933C 9BA1 C95B 2C95 B30F 8717 D5FD CEBA 3D9E ... still no signature ;)
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