On Mon, 2006-04-03 at 00:53 +0200, foser wrote:
> On Mon, 2006-04-03 at 00:43 +0300, Mart Raudsepp wrote:
> > Delaying GNOME-2.14 for non-GNOME packages using gtk2 USE flag is mildly
> > funny to me, too.
> 
> These two things are not related, 2.14 is not delayed whatsoever.
> Jakub's call was just to get attention to the bugs and didn't originate
> from the gnome team at all.
> 
> > Some two weeks have passed from 2.14 release, I would have expected it
> > to be in x86 at least a week ago... but I'm living in a utopian land.
> 
> I don't know where these expectations come from, but we intend to iron
> out the major known issues before we put stuff in ~arch . 2 weeks is
> rather short for a volunteer team of 2-3 active people for something the
> size of gnome. It is the same sort of nonsense we got with earlier
> releases, where people expect things to be in stable the day upstream
> declares it release day. People seem to expect the impossible, if you
> come from Debian the Gentoo cycle seems perfect, but as soon people are
> used to Gentoo the complaining starts anew. Get a grip and try to help
> out in constructive ways.

That's what I did, and that's exactly the major part of what you cut out
from the reply quotes.
It being a blocker is exactly what I read out from the mails, without
having found a bug number, which I perhaps lost in all the long thread.
It being a _personal_ expectation was written with the notion that it
would be as such in an ideal world, with the context of it being
possibly blocked due to a USE flag in mind, and it was explicitly
expressed as such.
I do not see why I am getting such unconstructive replies to my majorly
constructive e-mails. Should I cease writing e-mails to gentoo-dev, at
the rare times I have something constructive to say?

Now someone that deals with wxGTK or poEdit feel free to put use the
constructive things I said in the thread if it's a good suggestion, and
I'll use my time on working on wxGTK instead and upgrading my ~x86
system that has GNOME-2.14 ;)
Great work it being in ~x86 already, btw!


-- Mart Raudsepp

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