On Fri, 11 Aug 2006 11:27:29 -0400 Chris Gianelloni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I am on the alpha, amd64, and x86 arch teams. I have found that even > emails from architectures I'm not currently looking at tend to have a > great significance. It seems to me that most of the failures are > USE-flag related more than architecture specific. As I said, the best > solution that I can see to do *both* reducing junk and still keeping > the information inline is to have the ATs only add emerge --info on > failures, and to just mention the architecture and *relevant" USE on > success. And do you propose ATs still attach `emerge info` in this solution? > ex. > > gcc 4.1.1 works on x86 with the following: > > USE="gtk nls -bootstrap -build -doc -fortran -gcj -hardened -ip28 > -ip32r10k -mudflap -multislot -nocxx -objc -objc++ -objc-gc -test > -vanilla" Looks OK to me. But hey, aren't arch devs and testers alike supposed to test (almost) all flags? And also, wouldn't you also want to know about FEATURES, specifically FEATURES='{test,collision-detect}'? How about KEYWORDS? You would still need to be able to find the full `emerge info` in an attachment, I guess. > This still gives us most of the pertinent information without the rest > of the "spam" of emerge --info. It makes the emails from bugzilla > still usable for those of us that don't waste the time to open up > bugzilla for every bug. I do most of my bug management via email. I > open the bug *only* when I need to comment, or after I've performed > the work requested. Having to open the bug every time would be a > complete waste of time for me. Much more so than simply *deleting* > an email that doesn't pertain to me, or scrolling past unimportant > information. So we are still looking for a compromise that will place the burden on the $arch ADs and ATs, not the $other_arch devs, right? Currently it's basically a mindless integral copy/paste action which benefits only a few. > I would find that this change would be disruptive to my ability to > work on these architecture teams. As stated before, sometimes another > architecture's problem can point you at something to test. If a > certain USE combination doesn't work on x86, wouldn't you want to > test it on hppa specifically to make sure that it isn't a global > issue? I know that I sure test any combinations from $other_arches > when testing for a given $arch, if they've reported a failure. I still think failures should be reported in separate bugs, as they are likely to cause lots more information to be passed. Kind regards, JeR -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list