On 9/20/06, Chris Gianelloni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Catalyst doesn't provide ongoing maintenance or migration of installed
> systems ... you need more than just a spec file for one of these seeds.

Like what?  It sounds like they aren't providing anything but tarballs.

Tarballs, VMware images, vserver images, Xen images, and CDs are what
we'll eventually deliver, sure.  Before then, we'll be putting
together packages and (we expect) profiles too.  It's likely that
we'll also support folks who want to install seeds from source (ie,
from a generic stage3 install) as well as folks who want to seed
directly from a stage4 tarball or equivalent.  We have already made a
(small) start in the project's overlay, and we've started documenting
our ideas and hopes on our project's wiki.

We don't pretend to have all the answers; part of the joy of this
project will be learning how to do this stuff, and what can be
achieved with the tools that we all have access to.

Because it's *REALLY* stupid and shows just how unprofessional we are
when we have multiple groups doing the *EXACT* same thing using
different policies and procedures and all pushing it as if it were
*OFFICIAL* for the distribution.

How exactly do rants like this look "professional" at all?

I mean, we're really getting to the point where this is getting
*COMPLETELY* ludicrous.  Instead of trying to work together, we have
every yahoo with an @gentoo.org address who wants to do something
*slightly* differently coming up with a new "project" for it.

We are working together.  I'm sorry if you feel left out, but we've
been talking to the folks that we need help from, and I'd like to
publicly say "thank you" to them for how helpful and supportive
they've been.  I hope Chris' email won't discourage anyone from
continuing to help us.

Until this childish tantrum arrived in my Inbox, I didn't know anyone
was unhappy.

Btw, I would thank you for coming to talk to me directly about this
issue first (which is how we ask Gentoo developers to behave) - but
unfortunately, you didn't, so I can't.

Why can't we simply try to work *together* on things instead of this
whole "I'll start a new project" mentality that we have?

I think you've just demonstrated the problem far better than I could have.

Best regards,
Stu
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