On Thu, 15 Mar 2007 09:49:39 +0100 Wernfried Haas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 14, 2007 at 09:58:50PM +0000, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> > > > * The wrong idea of what the user base is, and what the target
> > > > user base is. Gentoo's direction is too heavily influenced by a
> > > > small number of extremely noisy ricer forum users, many of whom
> > > > don't even run Gentoo. Unfortunately, this self-perpetuating
> > > > clique wields huge amounts of influence.
> > > 
> > > I was certain that Gentoo's direction was influenced by the people
> > > working on Gentoo; not ricers.  Do you have any examples of when
> > > the ricers changed the direction of things in Gentoo.
> > 
> > Sunrise is the canonical example. Also consider the way the forums
> > are being run (like it or not, the forums are taken by many to be
> > representative of Gentoo's user base)...
> 
> Drop your theories about the forums from this list please, it's
> really far OT and creating a quite unproductive atmosphere.

Well no, that's the point. If we're discussing Gentoo's problems, as
some people wish, we might as well discuss them... It's hardly a sane
way of approaching things to say "Ok, we're having an honest discussion
about how to fix Gentoo, but you can't talk about x, y or z"...

-- 
Ciaran McCreesh
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