On 2007/07/15, Marius Mauch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, 15 Jul 2007 11:53:08 +0200 > Thomas de Grenier de Latour <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > My point is just that it doesn't work that well with the USE_ORDER > > that have been chosen. Even keeping the "-* in make.conf" case > > appart (obviously my opinion on how it should behave was not widely > > shared, i can live with that), there is still a problem with -* in > > make.defaults files: the day you switch from IUSE="nocxx" to > > IUSE="+cxx", will you remember that, as a consequence, you have to > > fix hardened/2.6/minimal profile? > > Well, it's just like any other renaming of USE flags in that regard.
But it shows that the "we shouldn't care about per-ebuild defaults in profiles" argument doesn't really stand, which is unfortunate because Mike is probaly right that it would have been a good thing. > And while I can see why people would want IUSE defaults to have a > higher priority than USE in make.defaults and/or make.conf, I suspect > the vast majority of users would get completely lost in finding out > where a flag was enabled/disabled (the current system is already > confusing to a lot of people until they get a detailed explanation). I don't think it's something which would be that hard to explain to users. All it takes is having "emerge -pv" to clearly shows that something unusual is happening when a flag value is overidden by an IUSE-default, for instance with an exclamation mark suffix, and to document that in the man page, with the rest of the --verbose output: ! suffix = profile's global default value for this flag is overidden by an ebuild-specific setting. You can still enable / disable it in your own configuration (make.conf or package.use) if you really want to. Maybe i am over-estimating the average user, but to me it doesn't sound that complicated or obscure. -- TGL. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list