Re: [gentoo-dev] better support for binary packages

[lxnay]

On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 7:20 PM, Ben de Groot <yng...@gentoo.org> wrote:

lx...@sabayonlinux.org wrote:

On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 5:47 PM, Ben de Groot <yng...@gentoo.org> wrote:

lx...@sabayonlinux.org wrote:

This is what I am doing in Sabayon, creating a new layer over Portage =>
Entropy. I'm almost done, just need to work out some documentation and
apidocs.
http://gitweb.sabayon.org/?p=entropy.git;a=summary

Only problem with entropy is that it doesn't work nice with portage.

You are wrong. From entropy 0.95+ all works fine, the only problem
previous releases had was with Portage world file being filled
incorrectly (emaint --fix world does it, but I am sure you know this).
http://gitweb.sabayon.org/?p=entropy.git&a=search&h=HEAD&st=commit&s=portage

That's funny, as I just installed Sabayon 4.1 KDE version the other day,
and did an equo world update. After that I wanted to install quassel,
but as the version in equo is ancient, I went for emerge. That wanted to
install qt-core and some other qt packages, which obviously were already
installed as deps for KDE. The emerge failed with a file collision of
qt-core (the newly emerged package with the previous binary package).

This is gentoo-dev and you are OFF TOPIC.

Btw, that's weird, because on 4.1 I have:

mars / # qlist -ICv | grep qt-
x11-libs/qt-3.3.8b
x11-libs/qt-4.5.0
x11-libs/qt-assistant-4.5.0
x11-libs/qt-core-4.5.0
x11-libs/qt-dbus-4.5.0
x11-libs/qt-gui-4.5.0
x11-libs/qt-opengl-4.5.0
x11-libs/qt-qt3support-4.5.0
x11-libs/qt-script-4.5.0
x11-libs/qt-sql-4.5.0
x11-libs/qt-svg-4.5.0
x11-libs/qt-test-4.5.0
x11-libs/qt-webkit-4.5.0
x11-libs/qt-xmlpatterns-4.5.0

and emerging quassel works as expected.

I then turned to the #sabayon irc channel and was told:

<yngwin> ok, so you can't just mix equo and emerge?
<Azerthoth> yngwin honestly you can, but you better
 have a real firm grip on how both package systems work,
 and be willing to brick your system
<yngwin> well, i know portage, i dont know equo yet
<Azerthoth> equo is preferred barring that, converting
 the system to portage only, but mixing the two can be
 really tricky
<Azerthoth> not saying you will brick your system, just
 saying that the odds increase exponentially

This is told to newbies who mess with USE flags. Since binary is a static world.

I would love Sabayon to be Gentoo with binary support, that would have
worked well on my laptop. But if mixing the package managers is so
problematic, that's just not worth the trouble for me.

And this made me definitely wonder about this email :)
Next time, please post Sabayon specific stuff on our ML/com. channels.

Regards,

Cheers,
--
Ben de Groot
Gentoo Linux developer (qt, media, lxde, desktop-misc)
Gentoo Linux Release Engineering PR liaison
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Fabio Erculiani

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