On 14.10.2009 03:17, Mike Frysinger wrote:
> On Tuesday 13 October 2009 19:30:52 Joshua Saddler wrote:
>> All that to say, Tommy (et al), is that the idea of expecting users to
>>  magically know everything and not to offer any documentation *in advance*
>>  . . . is a silly idea. Good lord, can you imagine the shitstorm the X11
>>  team would have gone through if they'd tried *that* without first writing
>>  up xserver 1.5 and 1.6 migration guides?!
> 
> we arent talking migrations that are forced onto everyone.  we're talking 
> about new code that users have to *opt in* for ("new net") that is only 
> available in unstable.  expecting everything in testing to be documented up 
> front is unreasonable.

While true in general, I cannot agree with you in this case.  This is
not some random app we are talking about.  It is a change in init
scripts that might render our servers inaccessible if things go wrong.
Please bear in mind that we have servers operating in datacenters in
other countries and network loss is the worst kind of bug you can
inflict upon us.

There is no documantation upstream.  At least we have some docs in g.o
(kudos to whomever wrote it) but it is old (there is no mention of
oldnet USE flag for example).  And IUSE="... +oldnet ..." is too fragile
a solution.

All I am saying is that this is a so important change that we should
have gotten it right from the beginning.  Openrc should not have been
unmasked without proper documentation.

-- 
Eray

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