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On 22/06/2011 07:42 μμ, Dane Smith wrote:
> On 06/22/11 12:41, Markos Chandras wrote:
>> On 22/06/2011 07:30 ¼¼, Dane Smith wrote:
>>> On 06/22/11 12:18, Markos Chandras wrote:
>>>> On 22/06/2011 06:47 ¼¼, Christoph Mende wrote:
>>>>> On Mi, 2011-06-22 at 18:33 +0300, Markos Chandras wrote:
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>>>>>> On 22/06/2011 06:19 ??, Dane Smith wrote:
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>>>>>>> All,
>>>>>>> [..]
>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [1] 
>>>>>>> http://dev.c1pher.net/index.php/2011/03/c1phers-adopt-a-package-program/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Dane,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I tried to do the same a year ago. Have a look here. It may help you
>>>>>> understand why that effort did not succeed
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/gentoo/dev/209204
> 
>>>>> I see concerns about to-be-orphaned ebuilds where proxied maintainers
>>>>> only care about the ebuild for a short period. This would only be a
>>>>> problem with new ebuilds that will be added to the tree with a proxy
>>>>> maintainer. Instead of encouraging that, this project could have a goal
>>>>> to reduce m-n packages by assigning proxy maintainers.
>>>>> So no new packages, only old ones revived. Sounds reasonable to me.
> 
>>>> This is what treecleaners try to do. Announce the upcoming removal of a
>>>> package so users can step up and maintain a package
>>>>> Although I didn't read the full thread, so please don't decapitate me if
>>>>> there were other concerns.
> 
>>>> The purpose of Dane's proposal is to push ebuilds to portage tree that
>>>> you, as developer, have no interest in them at all, but users do. If the
>>>> proxy-maintainer disappears, you can always leave it portage tree as m-n
>>>> (assuming no open bugs) or ask treecleaners to remove it.
> 
> 
>>> Yes, that was one aim, but the primary aim is to reduce m-n packages.
>>> That's what I've been doing so far and I think is what would be the
>>> primary goal of this "new" project.
> 
>> If this is the primary goal then you should try to merge it to
>> treeclears project instead of creating a new one. Treecleaners is pretty
>> much the only project that advertises the maintainer-needed packages so
>> I think it makes sense to extend this project to meet your needs. We
>> might need to rename the treecleaner project to reflect the extended
>> goals if needed
> 
>> [1]http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/qa/treecleaners/maintainer-needed.xml
> 
> That's a good idea. It would help reduce the number of packages that
> have to get 'treecleaned' and it would have the added benefit that it
> might attract some much needed help to that project.
> 
> Short version: I'm all for that.
> 
In this case, I would advice you to start a discussion with
[email protected] so we can formalize the new project and come back
to this mailing list to discuss it with the rest of the devhood

- -- 
Regards,
Markos Chandras / Gentoo Linux Developer / Key ID: B4AFF2C2
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