On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 12:40 AM, Walter Dnes <[email protected]> wrote: > Forking udev is probably not an option. The udev lead developer is a > Redhat employee, and his direction seems to be to drag everybody in > Redhat's direction. Our community doesn't have Redhat's billions.
We should note that RedHat is already spending their billions to make dracut smarter, and if initramfs is good enough for RHEL then it should be good enough for us if somebody just has to have /usr on a separate device and needs some of the fancier udev rules to work on boot. For those who don't need dracut there was already a stated desire to provide a simplified initramfs. And, for less complex setups, you don't need it at all. My concern with something like dropping udev is that it would make us different from every other desktop distro out there. I'm not aware of any distro packaging Gnome/KDE without udev. Not having Redhat's billions to me is a good reason to try to do things the same way that Redhat does them - so that we're not re-inventing the wheel. Gentoo is still a fairly meta distro and if users want to remove udev they probably can do it without a great deal of hassle if they don't want hot more hotplugish experience and don't use the big desktop environments. It just doesn't make sense to make that a default. In the same way I don't mind a list of CFLAGS that spans 3 lines but I'd never advocate putting that into the default make.conf. Rich
