>>>>> On Fri, 27 Jul 2012, Ben de Groot wrote: > I understand why the council rejected Debian's C.UTF-8 option, > but is there really no better default that we can use?
> Without any default locale set, in practically all cases that means > that the user is presented with English, and mostly the American > variant. So, in practice, we are defaulting to en_US, just not in a > unicode environment. Correct me if I'm wrong. See below. We're not defaulting to en_US for things like the number format. > Also, in most other places (such as our website, GLEPs, ebuilds) > we default to en_US.UTF-8. > So let's upgrade to en_US.UTF-8, which is for most users more > desirable than the current situation. Of course we will still advise > them to set their desired locales in /etc/locale.gen. But at least > they will start with a unicode environment, as expected anno 2012. As I had pointed out before [1], changing from POSIX to an en_US locale will have undesirable side effects, like commas as thousands separators in numbers (because of LC_NUMERIC). Also the defaults of en_US for LC_MEASUREMENT and LC_PAPER are only useful in the U.S. So if we change the default (but I still don't see the need), we should go for a less intrusive setting like: LANG="POSIX" LC_CTYPE="en_US.utf8" Ulrich [1] <http://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-dev/msg_56a438adde8efebd467ada5f858048ba.xml>
