On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 12:28 PM, Michał Górny <[email protected]> wrote: > On Mon, 30 Jul 2012 10:50:29 -0400 > Michael Orlitzky <[email protected]> wrote: > >> On 07/30/12 10:41, Michał Górny wrote: >> > On Mon, 30 Jul 2012 10:35:36 -0400 >> > Michael Orlitzky <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >> >> On 07/27/12 16:16, Aaron W. Swenson wrote: >> >>> >> >>> No user will be happy with whatever we decide to use as a default. >> >> >> >> The defaults should be what's best for the most people, with a bias >> >> towards safety. Why don't we just take a survey and choose the most >> >> common utf8 response? >> > >> > How can you take a survey like that? How will you ensure it actually >> > hits the majority? How will you define the majority? >> > >> >> Considering that the alternative is to force everyone to change it >> manually, you can do it however you want and it'll be an improvement. > > My point here is that you want the thing to change. So you first try to > convince people here to change. We practically did a small survey here > and in the result we didn't agree on doing the change. > > So you're saying we should do another survey on another group, hoping > that this time the result will be on your side. > >> 1) Create a webpage with a bunch of options, count the results >> >> 2) Ask the g.o mailing lists, count responses manually >> >> 3) Use google docs like the website survey that went out a few days >> ago >> >> It won't hit everyone, but no survey ever does. As long as you get a >> large enough unbiased sample, it doesn't matter. And anything would be >> an improvement, so it doesn't matter anyway. > > It depends on who the 'unbiased sample' is. Are you interested only in > opinion of Gentoo users who visit the website? Who sync once a day? > Once a week? Who follow Gentoo Planet? Who participate in the forums? > > We can create the survey and announce it everywhere. But it still won't > catch many old-time Gentoo users who can actually have something > opposite to say. It won't be unbiased.
I was thinking about this, and I suspect that a survey period of 1-2 months is likely fine. It should also be enough to scoop up people who run servers and monitor those servers for security updates. -- :wq
