-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 On 07/30/2012 11:04 AM, Michael Mol wrote: > On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 10:41 AM, Michał Górny <mgo...@gentoo.org> > wrote: >> On Mon, 30 Jul 2012 10:35:36 -0400 Michael Orlitzky >> <mich...@orlitzky.com> wrote: >> >>> On 07/27/12 16:16, Aaron W. Swenson wrote: >>>> >>>> No user will be happy with whatever we decide to use as a >>>> default. >>> >>> The defaults should be what's best for the most people, with a >>> bias towards safety. Why don't we just take a survey and choose >>> the most common utf8 response? >> >> How can you take a survey like that? How will you ensure it >> actually hits the majority? How will you define the majority? > > Serverside script on gentoo.org. Push out a news item with the URL > and a last-call date. Tabulate the results, using browser > fingerprints to weed out the bulk of duplicates. >
I still advocate continuing how we have been. However, the survey should be one question: What is the output of `locale' on your workstation/desktop/laptop? The less painful we make the survey, the more respondents we'll get, and the less biased the results will be. Additionally, it makes the responses easy to parse with a script. Servers are excluded because special things take place there that may not actually line up with what the user prefers. If it turns out that C or POSIX is the most common response, we should then default the locale to en_US.UTF-8 if we really want to default to a UTF-8 setting. The reason being it makes sense to have the default locale set to the country of origin, which in our case is the United States. Yes, it may irk those whose native locale is not en_US.UTF-8, but like I said, no one will be happy. Except for those whose native locale happens to be the default. Start at a default, doesn't really matter which as long as the default is the lingua franca of international business, and instruct the user, as we already do, how to change it during the setup. - -- Mr. Aaron W. Swenson Gentoo Linux Developer Email : titanof...@gentoo.org GnuPG FP : 2C00 7719 4F85 FB07 A49C 0E31 5713 AA03 D1BB FDA0 GnuPG ID : D1BBFDA0 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iF4EAREIAAYFAlAWrXAACgkQVxOqA9G7/aCmowD6A8+9giw1BhhxvAag7Cmeom7o mHVW49AfEDSo6ReknZkBAIa09FZ62SU66BCCi6m3Qisk5SW7P3YDLNbkMDS38/CZ =lFc0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
