On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 10:45:18PM -0500, William Hubbs wrote

>  No one is arguing against that. All this thread is about is making
>  systemd a first-class citizen, like OpenRC/Sysvinit, so it will be as
>  smooth as possible for someone who wants to switch between the two.

   It seems that some of the proposals are crossing the line to make
systemd first-class and openrc second-class.  *THAT* is what's causing
the complaints.  The best analogy I can think of is the more extreme
type of "affirmative action" that effectively amounts to racial
discrimination against white people.  The pro-systemd group here is
advocating double-standards...

1) http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/gentoo/dev/272180?do=post_view_threaded

> Having a package to install every systemd unit in existence just
> clutters the end user's system and makes it harder to tell which
> units are actually valid.

  Yet openrc users are supposed to accept having their systems cluttered
with systemd units.

2) I suggested keying on a "systemd" USE flag, to inform portage whether
or not to install systemd units.  I was told that
https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=198901 forbade using it that
way.  And therefore systemd config files would be installed regardless
of flags.  Therefore udev/eudev don't have "systemd" flags.  But both
have "openrc" flags, and will not run OK on an openrc machine without
the "openrc" flag.

-- 
Walter Dnes <waltd...@waltdnes.org>
I don't run "desktop environments"; I run useful applications

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