-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 08/22/2013 07:24 AM, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 6:19 AM, Markos Chandras <hwoar...@gentoo.org> wrote: >> On 22 August 2013 11:01, Rich Freeman <ri...@gentoo.org> wrote: >>> I think the result of a policy like this would be that stable keywords >>> would get dropped on most peripheral packages, but system packages >>> might still keep them. >> >> What's the point of that? Most users need more than what @system >> provides so after they deploy the 'stable' stage3 they will >> start pulling ~arch packages that were never tested against the stable >> tree. It so much better if stage3 was also ~arch. > > Do we actually have examples of this happening? I've never had > problems with a mix of stable and ~arch keywords. Granted, I'm not > running ~arch on most libs. > > I've seen lots of talk about stable being less reliable than ~arch, > and ~arch applications on a stable core being unreliable, but I've > never actually seen any real evidence that either is true. Granted, > I'm not necessarily expecting a scientific study, but I haven't even > heard anecdotes. I can't offer much personally - I only really use > stable to any extent and I find it works just fine other than the > occasional need to unmask something. > I unmask/keyword things as needed for Pentoo and I can't say I've ever noticed a lack of stability due to it. I have a (mostly) stable base of @system packages and key things like DE's most of the time, but I also randomly mix in an ~arch package or two when I need to. Almost all of the security tools I put on Pentoo are ~arch, and many of them pull in some random ~arch libs, etc. I can't say I've never had an issue but as long as we all keep the deps are correct as possible it really isn't an issue.
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