On Fri, 30 May 2014 13:32:54 -0400
Rich Freeman <ri...@gentoo.org> wrote:

> On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 1:02 PM, Ben Kohler <bkoh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > As nice at it sounds to just DROP these configs, that option is not
> > really feasible considering the way we currently use genkernel in
> > our handbook. Relying on the kernel's own defconfig, "genkernel
> > all" will NOT produce the same mostly-usable-on-any-hardware result
> > that we now rely on.
> 
> Considering that the configs are more generically useful than
> genkernel, having them separately maintained sort-of makes sense.
> Then genkernel is a kernel build/install/initramfs tool, not a config
> management tool.

It has always been a kernel build/install/initramfs tool; some people
misinterpret it for being a "default big working config" tool, without
seeing what else it can do. See /etc/genkernel.conf and `man genkernel`.

> I'd stick them someplace where any dev can get to them, and separate
> them from the genkernel functional code base.

Good idea, we really could use some kind of kernel seeds in the Portage
tree; if someone is willing to maintain them, knowing that Pappy has
maintained them for years and spoke about it it seems like hard work.

Pappy has discontinued and sold his kernel seeds; a Funtoo developer
bought it, but we're yet to see the first release of this continuation.
 
> As far as who takes care of them goes - I suggest that this stuff
> comes out of the devmanual unless somebody steps up to take care of
> them.  Those who take care of them become those who want to keep them
> around.  You can't toss out a tool and ask for it to be a
> recommendation but point to others that you think need to maintain its
> configuration.

s/devmanual/Gentoo Installation Handbook/ to avoid confusion. Other
than that; I agree with this as Genkernel works perfectly itself and
its just a small problem in the config that could be solved in various
ways, like fixing/forking/splitting/removing the config that come along.

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With kind regards,

Tom Wijsman (TomWij)
Gentoo Developer

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