11.04.2015 23:51, Pacho Ramos пишет:
> El sáb, 11-04-2015 a las 21:50 +0200, Andreas K. Huettel escribió:
>> Hi all, 
>>
>> the debate about arches, keywording and stabilization procedures is
>> coming up again.
>>
>> People have told me that the whole debate seems to turn into some sort
>> of arch-team bashing. That is definitely not the plan. Also,
>> supporting many different types of hardware is actually one of the
>> strong points of Gentoo.
>>
>> So, it would be absolutely great to have more feedback from the arch
>> teams, especially suggestions 
>> * how to improve procedures, 
>> * where you see the main problems, and 
>> * where you don't see problems...
>>
>> Please make your voice heard. Noone wants to overrule an active team.
>>
>> Cheers, 
>> Andreas
>>
>> PS. I've ommitted amd64, hppa, and arm from the manual CC list because
>> these are the stable arches I'm definitely not worried about.
>> Obviously feedback is appreciated anyway.
>>
> I think we need a common place to share all the scripts we are needing
> to use to:
> - Stabilize a bunch of packages from different bug reports
> - Stabilize big lists from *one* bug report
> - All the bug handling (unCC arches when needed, close the bug when it's
> the last arch)
> - The scripts running "repoman full" on the stable candidates to report
> if they are not ok due to missing deps.
> - ...
>
> And, ideally, that multiple script should be unified if possible once we
> can see them all in that repo and take the best from them :)
>
>

Ok. Here is my small input. I've been around arch teams and testing for
a long time. And i'm mainly taking care of system-important packages. In
my opinion the main problem is.. people. Now we have lack of manpower as
usual.
So i think, we have to drop stable packages for some so-called "fun
packages". I've noticed for example, that gimp has stable alpha keyword.
Have you ever run gimp on alpha servers?
I am sure, there are more stable-unneeded packages like games, maybe
some programming languages, and so on for others non-mainstream arches.


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