On Sun, Aug 09, 2020 at 01:22:44PM -0500, William Hubbs wrote: > On Sun, Aug 09, 2020 at 06:40:07PM +0200, Thomas Deutschmann wrote: > > On 2020-08-08 20:51, William Hubbs wrote: > > > What do people think? > > > > Like others already asked: What's the reason for this? > > Like others have said on the thread, the reason for the switch away > from udev in the past was mostly fear driven instead of fact driven. As > already said, if the udev developers were going to make udev unusable > without systemd they would have by now. > > > What do you expect from this change?
> > Is there a problem when new Gentoo installations will use EUDEV by > > default? Or is there a benefit if new installations would use sys-fs/udev? Here is something else to consider. Blueness and any of the other eudev maintainers are doing good work for alternative c library support such as musl. In fact, the musl profiles hard mask sys-fs/udev, so they are covered no matter what happens as a result of this thread. Eudev is supposed to be udev without systemd along with alternative c library support, but it appears to be behind what eudev offers. The following commit appears to be the last time eudev synced with udev: https://github.com/gentoo/eudev/commit/2ab887ec67afd15eb9b0849467f1f9c036a2b6c8 There are roughly 100 commits in the udev master branch since the date of this sync: https://github.com/systemd/systemd/commits/master/src/udev There are several new commits in libudev and udev rules since then as well: https://github.com/systemd/systemd/commits/master/src/libudev https://github.com/systemd/systemd/commits/master/rules.d I would like to publically thank Leio for providing me with the information above. I asked the council for guidance and was told that they don't need to be involved, so I guess the best thing to do now is call for testers. It would be helpful if people migrate their systems manually from eudev to udev and report issues. I'm not a valid test case because I have always run udev. Thanks, William
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